How do you get 24 damage from the Hellion UI? Did Blizzard put wrong numbers in there?
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How do you get 24 damage from the Hellion UI? Did Blizzard put wrong numbers in there?
No. It said 8 + 16. Not 8 + 10. So it increases the bonus BY ten. Not TO ten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimera757
I meant with Spider Mines, but you do make a good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldrius
Beastly. No wonder my Hydralisks liquified so fast. That's 4 shots to kill one. Or 5, depending on how many get hit by the flame.Quote:
Hellions with upgrade do 24 damage AoE. Not 18. They do 26 with +1 weapons as well.
exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Archon
If they do it, the civilian model should stay the same though imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio19
Even the first Hellion... was much better than the current model..
http://www.ressim.net/out.php/i570285_0310-4003.jpg
I thought people were complaining about that model as well. :confused: That is why I thought they changed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio19
People will complain as long as it has wheels. Don't expect logic when it comes to art appreciation.
Isn't the whole idea of it using wheels is to give the thought that they are suppose to be constructed en mass? They are a new design, unlike the Vulture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimera757
i actually agree the 3 wheeled one looks better now, by comparison. but im not passionate about the subject. some units look great, the helion doesnt, but it looks fine, none the less...Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio19
If you want wheels removed so badly why don't you take a look at this?Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio19
The idea is simple, they come with wheels and slower speed. Once the "Ion thrusters" upgrade is done, the model changes to something similar to the cobra (no wheelie anymore) thus explaining the speed increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josue
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The model should have 3 wheels like the original one... I guess...
Don't have it look too much like the Cobra though. Otherwise, that would be nice, or just have it start as a hover vehicle.
They should hover at all times. Wheels and hovering devices are too different for an upgrade to make sense. They would be really two different units, more than a modified unit.
They also, as per lore, work better when running over Creep than hover units do, which tend to lose traction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Archon
Ugh. Hellion harass would lose A LOT of power if it needed a speed upgrade.
Right now you can just build a factory and get a reactor and then charge off into battle with 4+ hellions relatively quickly. If you needed a speed upgrade you'd have to get a tech lab, limiting your hellion production DRASTICALLY.
Where does it mention that? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupino
Liberty's Crusade or Speed of Darkness... but maybe it said the opposite? (IIRC, a vulture flew out of control over creep in the former.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Archon
Gives you a sense that the authors have a limited knowledge of physics, because the Vulture would (being a hovering unit) have no traction at any point in its operational life, whereas the 'Hellion' is the one that is going to lose traction going over creep (it'll treat it like a wet or icy road).
Man, Im rusty, its been years since I've read that book. I need to read it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimera757
Yeah, and the explanation makes absolutely zero sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimera757
They also say that it's very difficult for two Ghosts to be together, because of some kind of mental feedback, but there's a comic now about a Ghost academy, where multiple Ghosts work together.
Vultures spider mines are irreplaceable. It's the ultimate defense combo with siege
Um, so? The former statement does not necessitate the latter. Indeed, the latter statement sounds suspiciously like a reason to keep them gone.Quote:
Vultures spider mines are irreplaceable. It's the ultimate defense combo with siege
That Vultures over creep lore does not compute. How can a hovering unit lose traction over anything, let alone creep? It doesn't have any traction to lose - it's HOVERING.
Apparently, in the SC universe, whatever magic that allows Vultures to work doesn't work over a liquid. Or something.Quote:
That Vultures over creep lore does not compute. How can a hovering unit lose traction over anything, let alone creep? It doesn't have any traction to lose - it's HOVERING.
It's funny, because they mention some "transducer coils" losing traction over Creep. Coils produce electromagnetic fields, so i wonder what effect could them have on the ground, why it works on different kinds of terrain, and how some organic matter over the ground makes any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas
Clearly, the guy that written it had no clue wtf he was talking about. Greatest sin in sci-fi. No details are much better than bullshit details.
The worst of it all, is that it was absolutely no need for that scene at all. It would be the same for someone to say: "Crap! We are moving over Creep!".
Very few comic book writters have taken physics courses. I cant tell you how many sci-fi movies have been "ruined" (not really) by being a science major.
1- It was a novel, not a comic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur
2- Note that i said "No details are much better than bullshit details.", not that everything must be full of scientific details.
Maybe the minerals in the ground have special magnetic properties that Vultures rely on (similar to how the BW manual says that Corsairs' Disruption Web is drawn towards the magnetic resonance found in ores and minerals)
The hover issue reminded me of that scene from Back To The Future Part II, (Boards don't work on water! Unless you've got POWER!) but those hoverboards ran on magnetic rails. (They're real btw, check the DVD bonus features)
And while Gradius' idea could make sense, it doesn't explain how in other comics, Vultures can fly.
Then the Vulture would be pretty much useless, because the mineral composition of the ground varies a lot on the same planet, let alone different planets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gradius
The Hellion is the shittiest SC2 unit ever. It looks stupid. Attacks stupid. And the pilot is worse than the John Lennon wannabe from the vulture.