Discussion: Real ID

Basic identifiers to my knowledge

I'm getting a lot of messages regarding what I know of Real IDs. I can elaborate on what was considered months ago as that's the last time I got any information (aside from public) of what it could be. There are things that could be different but I figured this would be a way to help alleviate some time spending. I understood 2 different potential formats:

Format: Character.Account -or- Displayname.Account

Now, moving on with some public knowledge we later found out, it sounds like there is going to be a limited number of "Characters" per "StarCraft II Account". For this reason it leads me to speculate that the first one is most likely.

In that case, for your account you'll have 3 or so "Characters" you can create for StarCraft II. Let's say for me, I use an account name of "UBERSCLGUY". This would be a unique identifier. If I find out that someone else, like LordofAscension, took that identifier I would have to pick another one. This is not unlike signing up for an IM account, as you can't pick an account name that's already in use. For that reason, I'm going to proceed in this example as "UBERSCLGUY1234" to help elaborate that point.

Now, I have the ability to make 3 characters in my account. (from information that may be out of date) One of my characters will be "Gifted". This is not my identifier, so it can be one that others see as well. At this point, if I were to log into that character, it would be "Gifted.UBERSCLGUY1234". If we return to the mentality of IMs... While I have an MSN account with a unique email address, my display name is not that but rather "Kevin" or a variation thereof I can change if I want. For this reason, when I talk to my mother, I don't see "Grandma@emailaddress.com says:" but rather I see "Mom says".

This previous point goes MUCH FURTHER when you take the perspective out of StarCraft II. If you look at cross communication regarding SC2 and WoW, it makes a lot of sense. Let's pretend that LoA plays Diablo 3 in the future. When I'm trying to contact him, and he's playing a Barbarian named Conan... He will be essentially playing "Conan.UBERSCLGUY". If I were playing WoW while he was playing Diablo 3, he would see something like "BobtheGnome.UBERSCLGUY1234".

Display/Privacy settings to my knowledge.

Now, when you move forward knowing what you know... there are three levels of privacy that I am aware about. Much of this has been recently brought to light in blue posts. But it would be nice to elaborate on these.

The first level of privacy is the "Character" level for lack of a better description. This is what happens when anyone tries to friend you that you barely know. This means they know you on the CHARACTER level and only know your CHARACTER. In World of Warcraft, it would mean that a person I would randomly group with who likes me would know me as "BobtheGnome". If I were to log into another character, they would have no clue. This is how WoW currently operates.

Second level is a "Player level" where they get to know your "account". This allows them to see your account name.. and further, whatever character you're on. In World of Warcraft, this is essentially letting people know all of your alts. In the more global scale, it also means that people can get ahold of you no matter if you're in another faction, server or game.

The Third level is a "Real Life" level. This means that people can see your personal data, such as real life name. This would mean you could see me as "Kevin ************" on your list and know whatever game I play.

There are other levels and customizability in each. For example, this doesn't include the "ignore" level.

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I hope this alleviates some concerns and questions, and please understand this is a combination of public understanding and a conversation I had with JD literally months ago. I know that "clan tags" will be separate in some form and can't even speculate on it other than that fact.

Please feel free to ask questions, but I don't know if I can answer any information further as I think I've explained well what I know, but if further elaboration is required, feel free.

So those blizzard guys who posted in the beta forums as "normals"......

......that "." in their names separated each guy's "callsign" from his ID?

As in [callsign].[bnetID]

That's a good way to view it.

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Originally Posted by Gifted

[COLOR="YellowGreen"][U][B] Let's say for me, I use an account name of "UBERSCLGUY".[/INDENT]

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hmm... why did i read this- UBER UGLY -at first glance ? :)

So it works in a similar fashion to a name and surname, allowing you to identify John Smith, from John Jamerson?

Fairly straight forward, thanks for the explanation.

It's a little more than that. As there will be two "John Smith"s in the world. It's better to think of it as "Character" "Player". The second segment represents "you" as there are no other "yous" than "you".

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Originally Posted by mgcemir

hmm... why did i read this- UBER UGLY -at first glance ? :)

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haha, I did too. It's because when you read only the first and last letters need to be in place to be able to identify the word quickly, but the rest of the word can be scrambled. In this case they were close to that, but not exactly. I love being a psych major!

so would it be best to use like.. names.? in other words, being like Skyze.Skyze .. or Skyze.NickDaniel.. or hmm?

I wouldn't use names for the account part. Use a bunch of random characters for that.

random characters? I dontthink id do that.

I just dont like how you will appear as like.. two names always. its almost the same as the whole, msging d2 people while on war3/sc and gotta type Cow@Azeroth or Cow@USeast, cept the azeroth/useast will be unique now, making it even more annoying.

It does not always show your name as Character.Account. In loading screens it just shows Character and if you know someone IRL you can set it so they see your actual real name instead of this Character.Account.

Maybe the Italian Q&A from last week was poorly translated, but it left me with the impression that neither the first or second part of the name was unique, but the combination of the two is unique.

So I could be Pick.SCLegacy and someone else could be Gifted.SCLegacy and yet another person could be Pick.Blizzard? Like an email address, only the complete I.D. needs to be unique.

But now Gifted is saying that the second part of the name is always unique? :confused:

Understand, what I have for information may be out of date. But to bring that information forward...

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Upon first login will be asked to enter a new nickname in the form Nickname.nick (Zhydaris.Blizz, MarioZerg.Clan, etc..). Currently the first part of the nickname is not "unique", so more people can choose MarioZerg, but only one person has the combination MarioZerg.Clan.

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You may be correct. This is why I made it more a discussion with what I understood. I will admit I may be wrong depending on how this specific note is interpretted.

His next quote:

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No no, it has nothing to do with clan name, which will appear in another way:) It is simply two levels of recognition. The first is the generic nickname, which can be a duplicate. The second is an additional identifier.

Let me give an example: You choose ChObO.qualcosa. Guy chooses ChObO.qualcosaltro. The name will be displayed normally Chobo in both cases (loading screens of games, chat games, etc..), The second nickname comes into play only on statistics, chat outside the game, etc.etc. Another totally random example:"Do you know Mario?" "I know several" "Mario, who live on Mar Sara" "Ahhh FAR Mario, yes, I know!"

I know it sounds complicated, but it's easier than it seems:)

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In light of them both, both of our ideas could be supported. In fact, the first quote involves him saying the "Currently the first part of the nickname is not "unique"" which is an interesting stipulation that states that another portion WOULD be unique.

I fear that no matter the discussion, we won't know until we have beta in our own hands.

......or until someone tells us.

Your interpretation makes more sense than the Italian Q&A because the second part of the name can be used in other games (Diablo 3 and WoW). My original understanding of the system would not be any good for cross-game communication.

Well, I guess we will know the answer "soon".

At least it's not "Final Stretch" cause that takes 1 year apparhently!

ok, something to help consider... right now there is a thread with new posts. They have the following:

PostName: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html...87960&sid=5000

Datth.ats: am I blue?
Wispman.datasian: How bout me?
Datth: Secret account of no extensions.

Something to consider regarding the situation and could contribute to the discussion.

Hm, does this mean it'll be easy enough to rename your "first" name? Or would that require you to delete and create a new character? WoW players might know more about this.

For example, can I go from Hammer.MyClan to Axe.MyClan?

I assume there testing out making accounts, switching avatars to make sure they all post correctly, and switching accounts works properly. looks like it's working (if that's the case)

In WoW, you can delete and create a new character.. or you can pay money to rename it in a form called "Character customization".

Now, in our blue posts, we've been informed that smurfing is going to be cracked down on, as the idea is to improve your stats by killing people beneath your skill level.

We also know that they've said in the italian FAQ that your "Secondary identifier" will show up outside of game, such as in "statistics".

Unfortunately, this doesn't lead to any understanding of what to expect regarding SC2 as they can make display name easy to change... or set it up as a character situation.

Which thread will we use to post our in-game contact info?

Have they announced yet how it will be done with clan tags?

Like: clan.name.account ?

Just wanna point out "Datasian" which is datths WC3 account is posting on his regular account in the "more forum testing!" on bnet

I'll get back to you on that one. We might want to do an official list, or we could let someone carry the thread. Expect an answer within hours.

I find the possibility of having 3 accounts interesting. A long time ago, I debated the issue that I thought each person should have a different rank with each race. That way I can find equally skilled opponents if I am really good with Protoss, but rarely ever play using Terran. With only one rank, my Terran games would be crushed by people equal to my Protoss skill level.

Having a max of 3 "characters" in SC2 allows me to have three different race ranks while still limiting Smurfing.

I just hope I'll be able to delete one of the accounts and make a new one, would be kinda bad if you were in 3 clans and all of em are gone and you'd forever have to stick to these accounts. Or did I just get it all wrong? v_v

I don't think clans are gonna be part of your name......

Uh, ok. Thanks. Excuse my ignorance.

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Originally Posted by slami

Uh, ok. Thanks. Excuse my ignorance.

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lol any "ignorance" is shared among us all. None of us know for sure.

I'm just speculating based off of what I heard from various blue sources.

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Originally Posted by Pick

I find the possibility of having 3 accounts interesting. A long time ago, I debated the issue that I thought each person should have a different rank with each race. That way I can find equally skilled opponents if I am really good with Protoss, but rarely ever play using Terran. With only one rank, my Terran games would be crushed by people equal to my Protoss skill level.

Having a max of 3 "characters" in SC2 allows me to have three different race ranks while still limiting Smurfing.

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I remember that discussion! I certainly hope is still considered.

While I find this whole concept a little confusing, I assume once we get the signup at beta we'll spend fifteen minutes figuring it out and then the inevitable "oooooh, THAT's what they were talking about!"