Beta info. (Pictures on Jace Hall Show)

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

Which is why I think its more likely for them to use the beta to produce numbers to present the investors. If they announce the beta to investors they will just look at it like. Okay... You announced something that you should of several months ago.. Why am I giving you my money again?

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While I can agree with your previous post, this one I would greatly disagree with. The scope of your conversation regards SC2 alone. You have to remember the call will regard Activision Blizzard. To be quite simple, they have an incredible lineup for 2010 as a whole.

Even if beta isn't announced on this call, there will be plenty of news to report regarding good ventures. This is an update of what's happened so far and what's to come.

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

Thats great but at the same time you have a lot of software and hardware development companies that are putting out new products that will kill the competition. If you want an example Google the USB 3.0 and take a look at that. Its going to completely replace fire-wire. If investors have the choice between that a product that will be replacing the competition, and a product like starcraft being developed by a company who hasn't produced an RTS in 5-6 years. Which would they choose? In my opinion I'd rather go with the first option.

Compare activisions earnings from modern warfare 2 to that of a dozen other companies who are in stable markets. I promise your going to see that the billion dollar profit they made is a drop in the bucket in comparison.

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Again, each industry has a solid investor base, with constant new investors, big and small. Just because google is doing something cool doesn't mean everyone is going to uproot out of the videogame market and go to google. Then youll have overpriced stocks (like google with its current $542 price). Where theres little investors, thats where theres the most money to be made.

If Activision were a company that hasn't produced anything from 5-6 years of course you don't invest in that. But thats not what the company is, it killed the market with MW2, it led the instrument playing genre in 2009 with DJ Hero, it leads the MMO market with WoW, and stands to regain its dominance in RTS with Starcraft 2.

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

While video games might be a big deal in the future. Right now they are nothing of interest to major investors. Even when comparing them to smaller industries like retail it still isn't anywhere near the same amount of profit.

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... how is retail a small industry?

I really think you're off your rocker, mate.

Did Blizzard ever lose dominace of the RTS?

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

Did Blizzard ever lose dominace of the RTS?

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Does the RTS have a super clear front runner today like it did back in the day with wc3 or sc? No. Historically, yes Blizzard has dominated, but currently the RTS market doesn't have a leader thats above all the rest. When Sc2 gets released...well, we all know who the leader will be then.

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Originally Posted by Gifted

While I can agree with your previous post, this one I would greatly disagree with. The scope of your conversation regards SC2 alone. You have to remember the call will regard Activision Blizzard. To be quite simple, they have an incredible lineup for 2010 as a whole.

Even if beta isn't announced on this call, there will be plenty of news to report regarding good ventures. This is an update of what's happened so far and what's to come.

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Thats true activision blizzard does have a great line up to show their investors. However, it still doesn't change the fact they announcing beta puts things in a negative light. If I as an investor had a company tell me that they would release a product with in a certain amount of time. Then fail to do so, and finally tell me almost a year later that the same product they failed to release is just entering its beta stage. I'm not going to take it as good news.

I'm not saying they will completely abandon their investments with activision blizzard. I do think it would make them second guest their decisions to do so and maybe even turn them away from them in the future.

Also you have to remember that this is a very chaotic time when it comes to investors.

i'm going to be depressed if beta doesn't start friday

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Originally Posted by Domi87

Does the RTS have a super clear front runner today like it did back in the day with wc3 or sc? No. Historically, yes Blizzard has dominated, but currently the RTS market doesn't have a leader thats above all the rest. When Sc2 gets released...well, we all know who the leader will be then.

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Originally Posted by GGTeMpLaR

i'm going to be depressed if beta doesn't start friday

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Think of it this way...at least it's a definitive date to look forward to which is fast approaching. We have the first two videos of the Jace Hall show spanning a week to look forward to in addition to the conference call. There's still a very good chance neither will result in any solid news related to SC2's timeline, and frankly it's good to have that mentality so you don't get disappointed. But having milestones to look forward to still beats obscurity.

"But having milestones to look forward to still beats obscurity. "

debatable, but a good point

I'll be looking forward to this weekend. Likely or not its still worth keeping an eye on.

I think everyone here needs to go to http://www.southparkstudios.com/ and watch the season 10 episode go god go where Cartman tries to freeze himself so he can wake up one week in the future when the nintendo wii comes out.

Here

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103800

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Originally Posted by GGTeMpLaR

i'm going to be depressed if beta doesn't start friday

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I doubt it will be this week, I would think maybe a little further into February if they are going to do it before the conference.

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Originally Posted by GGTeMpLaR

i'm going to be depressed if beta doesn't start friday

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How can it start this Friday... The conference is on Feb 10th.. and that's the day they will announce Beta.

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

I think everyone here needs to go to http://www.southparkstudios.com/ and watch the season 10 episode go god go where Cartman tries to freeze himself so he can wake up one week in the future when the nintendo wii comes out.

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lold i've seen that

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Originally Posted by Rashed801

How can it start this Friday... The conference is on Feb 10th.. and that's the day they will announce Beta.

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Can't tell if this was a joke or not, but that's just speculation. At this point everyone has their own predictions.

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

I think everyone here needs to go to http://www.southparkstudios.com/ and watch the season 10 episode go god go where Cartman tries to freeze himself so he can wake up one week in the future when the nintendo wii comes out.

Here

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103800

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I've tried it several times during the past months...
:( it has yielded no results

Well defcon 3 and saturday is 3 days away....

So much hopium :D

We need some countdowns....

BETACON SYSTEM. warning. WARNING. ERROR.

Just curious what will everyone's response be if we hit april and still not have beta?

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

Just curious what will everyone's response be if we hit april and still not have beta?

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I know Gifted will be hiding.

Whats all this about Retcon system?.....oh wait, Betacon.

Izzit time fer Caliban to git out hiz wallet again...?

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

Just curious what will everyone's response be if we hit april and still not have beta?

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I'll be really busy drooling on the floor of a closed room with white paddled walls, babbling stuff like: we all thought it was so close... we knew it was almost there... :(

Is this before or after you do start acting crazy?

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Originally Posted by Coldasblues

Is this before or after you do start acting crazy?

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Actually... that's a very good question indeed.
I think that for my own safety as well as that of those surrounding me it'd be before I lost it.
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If it's after it would probably involve one or two demolished builidngs...:cool:

I'd recommend a building in austin I hear its nice there that time a year.

(jking.)

These forums are completely out of control. It may be safer to stay out until the thing calms down. Everybody lost their minds... no more rational talking in here... so sad.

*Points to Chaos.*

He did it!

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Originally Posted by KadajSouba

These forums are completely out of control. It may be safer to stay out until the thing calms down. Everybody lost their minds... no more rational talking in here... so sad.

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There is, just not in these 2 threads.

The two I'm posting in.

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hmm.

I think people got bored with the investing in video games discussion and just decided to make things more exciting.

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Originally Posted by KadajSouba

These forums are completely out of control. It may be safer to stay out until the thing calms down. Everybody lost their minds... no more rational talking in here... so sad.

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Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation

WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL

WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL

WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL



But yah this is what 3 years of pent up nerd rage gets you.

This thread is going places.

TL confirms Beta info requests are real!

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Originally Posted by Kennigit

Eh i guess there was no NDA on it but i thought other sites would keep it quiet to avoid all this :\...the email is real - the photoshop is terrible and just a typed up version.

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...&currentpage=5

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Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur

TL confirms Beta info requests are real!





http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...&currentpage=5

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This deserves at least Betacon3... AT LEAST

Looks to me like they are still debating over it

Well I coulda told you that much, jeez

Very yummy, this makes me insanely joyful. I may yet get to play SC2. Hopefully it comes out before my Bday guys.

Any word on what article gifted was writing?