How many commands can be put in a waypoint list?

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Originally Posted by n00bonicPlague

I saw the paragraph in question, but I didn't see a number.

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Thought I was seeing things :) it was in one of the bullet points after the paragraph

Setting Waypoints
Warcraft III allows you to guide units along using waypoints. Select the units, then hold down Shift. While holding Shift down, select Attack then while continuing to hold down Shift, repeatedly select attack and click on each point on either the mini-map or main screen you want the units to travel to. When you are done, release Shift. You can also do the same thing by right-clicking on the map, but that will issue a Move order instead. As your forces are traveling to the various waypoints, they will not stop or respond to any attacks on them. Move should only be used if you don't think the units will be attacked.

Setting waypoints is very useful when scouting by air. Select an air unit, then set a waypoint at each resource spot. The flyer will head off to each resource spot. This is very good when used with Goblin Zeppelins and Dwarven Flying Machines.

- Use Waypoints to guide your troops through difficult areas.

- There is a limit of 35 Waypoints that you can use.

- Waypoints will display graphically on the screen

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Originally Posted by Josue

Use in SC2? How about what I posted?

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Definitely would be handy for Lurkers. Question is, if you queue up an attack>burrow>attack thing, will the Lurker automatically unburrow as soon as enemies are out of range?



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Oh, I looked at "Queuing Commands" instead of "Setting Waypoints" (the latter above the former).

Perhaps SC2 will get even more than 35 :D

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Definitely would be handy for Lurkers. Question is, if you queue up an attack>burrow>attack thing, will the Lurker automatically unburrow as soon as enemies are out of range?

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Nope, you can't do that. You can't give command that doesn't exists. Since Unburrow doesn't exists if units aren't burrowed already. So you can only do "move->Burrow" but that is good enough for Lurkers. ;)

I think that the Lurker should just Burrow when it needs to attack. It's obvious, as the Lurker can only attack while burrowed. However, killing Lurkers that were told to attack-move would be easy with some minimal micro, as the Lurkers take some time to Burrow.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

I think that the Lurker should just Burrow when it needs to attack. It's obvious, as the Lurker can only attack while burrowed. However, killing Lurkers that were told to attack-move would be easy with some minimal micro, as the Lurkers take some time to Burrow.

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Sure, just like in SC1, lurkers are easy to beat if you are the one who is retreating and defending. But, it is much easier for Zerg player, to use this command instead of Burrowing all Lurkers at the same time, and cause of position, only 3 out of 10 really do attack.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

I think that the Lurker should just Burrow when it needs to attack. It's obvious, as the Lurker can only attack while burrowed. However, killing Lurkers that were told to attack-move would be easy with some minimal micro, as the Lurkers take some time to Burrow.

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If and ONLY if they automatically unburrowed when you ordered them to move.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

I think that the Lurker should just Burrow when it needs to attack. It's obvious, as the Lurker can only attack while burrowed. However, killing Lurkers that were told to attack-move would be easy with some minimal micro, as the Lurkers take some time to Burrow.

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This absolutely wouldn't be good for the zerg player... If units come in to range and start attacking me, I dont want my units to decide on their own what to do. I may want to move them out of the area, say if theres a detector nearby? I certainly don't want my lurker to burrow to attack when a large group of units with a detector is coming through, I'd rather it run.

Some things should be done manually, and I believe this is one of those things. Usually you'll need to do a bit of prep work before throwing lurkers out there, since they are vulnerable during the placement and burrowing. I dont think this would be a helpful mechanic if added; as it just seems more like the game playing itself.

Are you guys considering this?

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Originally Posted by Josue

yeah, hold fire would be awesome, I saw a thread saying lurkers should get it, in fact I think terran ghosts got it.
And how about being able to queue burrow?
In SC1 if you were holding shift and commanded a unit to move or attack and added as the final command "burrow", the unit would cancel the queue and simply burrow wherever it was and not after reaching the point it was commanded to move before!

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Hold fire would be awesome for Lurkers. Also The way I thought about queuing burrow would be like this, you command the unit to move to a certain point and burrow after reaching that place. if hold fire was also there, it could be queued last so if it's a lurker it should hold it's fire after burrowing untill all lurkers are in the strategic point (let's say a cliff or bridge) so even if an SCV passes by there the lurkers won't be discovered. Imagine a group of marines arrives, you would cancel the hold fire command by issuing the lurkers to attack when all the marines are in a favorable position.
Good use of the surprise factor I think...
About trying to queue the move command after the burrow one, RamiZ already said it, the command won't be there, so it won't be queued!

Lurkers and Tanks already have Hold Fire. Its been in the game for over a year.

I didn't even remember we could do this in WC3. But thinking of it, do we really need like 10 waypoint steps? A simple Triangle shape (2 or 3 steps) to avoid a certain line should be enough, waypoint is a macro mechanic, not a micro one, imo hehe. I already see people microing their marines with the waypoints lol