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SC units at scale (warning: BIG image)
I did a unit size comparison, using images that show more than one unit, some available data on unit sizes that is available, and some guessing based on cinematics, and was able to do this:
Yeah, i know it looks like they're all suspects of a crime. I wouldn't like to be the police officer that arrested them :p
Way Old image: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1...aos3screen.jpg
Previous image: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4...amaos4gray.jpg
Changes: used Immortal instead of Dragoon, Viking is bigger, Ultralisk is smaller, Queen is bigger.
Updated scale:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/600...amaos5gray.jpg
Changes: Immortal 1m taller (looked at portrait), changed Viking for Wyrm and made it 2m taller (it was the Wyrm's concept, anyways).
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I'm pretty sure hydralisks are only 2.4 meters tall. Unless they're a lot bigger in StarCraft II.
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man, that ultra is definitely the scariest of the bunch. sure, the colossus is taller, but the ultra is the meatiest by far.
you should put in a mothership or carrier/battlecruiser for good measure...haha
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I'm PRETTY sure that a Viking is way huger than a Hydralisk.
Oh wait it is, the Hydralisk isn't 4 m tall, that would be double the Height of a marine.
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The Hydralisk look pretty big next to Zeratul in the video of the caves, that's why i put them at 4m tall. I think that the SC2 Hydras are bigger. They certainly look much more meatier than before.
About the Viking, i think it was supposed to be bigger when they drawed the concept art, but we seen it's real size in the picture close to Raynor inside the Hyperion. The Goliath wasn't supposed to be too big, either.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rionArmory.jpg
How that small thing is able to transform and then fly, i don't know, but seems to be of that size. I don't know if there is another size reference.
Here they look like they have 4.8m tall. Sounds a little more reasonable, i will modify it:
http://www.starcraft-ii.ru/images/ga...and_viking.jpg
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Look at the picture again, look in the background with the guy who's actually standing beside the viking and use him for comparison, not Raynor.
He's barely the size of the gatling gun.
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Yeah, Viking being 4m can't be true. An average human is around 2 meters tall, so the cockpit of a plane should be about 3~4 meters. If you look at the Viking's cockpit, it looks too small compared to the rest of the Viking for the Viking to be 3.8 meters. I'm guessing more around 15~20 meters tall.
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I'd say Vikings are around 10 meters tall.
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10/10 for the effort. However the proportions on several units are clearly off. The hydralisk while easily over 4m from head to tail, would only stand about 2.5-3 m erect...roughly the size of a protoss. The factory scene featuring the viking is simply a case of bad depth perception and wrong frame of reference (Raynor). If you look at the man in the background directly next to it, you get a better sense of scale. I'd say the viking would have more or less the same dimensions as a modern day fighter jet (15-16 m =/-). If you want a better Idea how big it would be in walker mode, look at 'Frontline vol. 1'. Or better yet; Starscream from Transformers the movie.
Everything else is probably more or less correct.
Now that I think about it, the Thor probably wouldn't be that much taller than a viking in terms of height. It's overall mass/density however, is probably equal too, if not greater than an ultralisk.
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By the way, the reason the Zeratul/Hydralisk comparison is flawed is because Zeratul hunches... a lot. Think of Trolls in WoW. They're the second tallest race, after Tauren, but you'd never know it in-game.
The Hydras in that cinematic appear to be bigger than they are.
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An average human is around 2 meters tall
Lol. Thankfully this is pretty far from any Earth we happen to live on, or my height would be a lot less of a commodity than it is now. :P
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Now for MY take on the scales...
First of all, I would say that the Siege Tank would be closer to (but not quite) 4 meters tall, judging from this pic. http://www.starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=2
Note that the barrel is almost twice as tall as the Marine, even though the whole Tank is behind the guy.
Next, I refuse to believe that the Thor is ONLY 15.5 meters tall. Please note that the BORE of the shoulder cannons is a quarter of a meter in diameter. I'd say that 20 meters tall would be a good estimate.
Everyone else has pointed out how big the Viking is, so since when has the Queen been smaller than the Dragoon?
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pure.Wasted
By the way, the reason the Zeratul/Hydralisk comparison is flawed is because Zeratul hunches... a lot. Think of Trolls in WoW. They're the second tallest race, after Tauren, but you'd never know it in-game.
The Hydras in that cinematic appear to be bigger than they are.
Lol. Thankfully this is pretty far from any Earth we happen to live on, or my height would be a lot less of a commodity than it is now. :P
Commodity? That's not the right word, is it?
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Originally Posted by
Norfindel
You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)
The viking is actually 50 m behind Raynor, so i don't know where you got only 4.8m ? Just look at the man behind Raynor, he is still quite few meters infront of the Viking, but is alredy atleast 4 times smaler than the viking.
I would personaly gues about 14-18 m for the Vikings size.
And as for the Thor, that can't be right. How could you put the Ultralisk before the Thor. I remember those pictures from blizzard where it showed humans standing on the thor, and they were realy really small. I would put the Thor size 45 - 60 m and not 15 ( It's not a viking :p)
And the Colussus is no way only 40 m. I would put it more at 150 - 200 m. It's being described in the lore as being the size of a Skyscraper !
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Why wouldn't the Ultralisk be bigger than a Thor, though? I envision the Ultras to be the more massive of the two units, so I'm perfectly fine with THAT order. Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to reavers and dragoons.
Of course, I'd take concept art and their scale with a grain of salt. I've seen Samwise Didier's siege tank which made THAT a 6 metre tall machine, and his omegalisk comes across at a 'mere' 15 metres.
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I would change whatever has objective data, or if subjetively reasonable. If you know pictures that show more than one unit, please, link to them.
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Originally Posted by
pure.Wasted
By the way, the reason the Zeratul/Hydralisk comparison is flawed is because Zeratul hunches... a lot. Think of Trolls in WoW. They're the second tallest race, after Tauren, but you'd never know it in-game.
The Hydras in that cinematic appear to be bigger than they are.
I will re-check it. I seen the cinematic closely, and that was the impression it gave to me.
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Originally Posted by
phazonjunkie
10/10 for the effort. However the proportions on several units are clearly off. The hydralisk while easily over 4m from head to tail, would only stand about 2.5-3 m erect...roughly the size of a protoss.
But why do you say that? Did you seen Hydras next to other units somewhere?
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phazonjunkie
The factory scene featuring the viking is simply a case of bad depth perception and wrong frame of reference (Raynor). If you look at the man in the background directly next to it, you get a better sense of scale. I'd say the viking would have more or less the same dimensions as a modern day fighter jet (15-16 m =/-). If you want a better Idea how big it would be in walker mode, look at 'Frontline vol. 1'. Or better yet; Starscream from Transformers the movie.
For the time being, i will use the image i posted in page 1, with the Dark Templar as reference, it should be 4.8m tall. My first impression was that it should be as large as a modern jet, but it seems like itīs a lot smaller, and close to what the Goliath was. Did you see Goliath pictures from SC:Ghost? Itīs really small.
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Quirel
Now for MY take on the scales...
First of all, I would say that the Siege Tank would be closer to (but not quite) 4 meters tall, judging from this pic.
http://www.starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=2
Note that the barrel is almost twice as tall as the Marine, even though the whole Tank is behind the guy.
I will re-check the image, but i loaded it in Photoshop and set the size to match 2cm for the Marine, then measured the Tankīs height. It doesnīt seems to be too far away. If itīs taller, it wonīt be a lot taller. Itīs taller than a M1 Abrams, anyways.
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Quirel
Next, I refuse to believe that the Thor is ONLY 15.5 meters tall. Please note that the BORE of the shoulder cannons is a quarter of a meter in diameter. I'd say that 20 meters tall would be a good estimate.
Everyone else has pointed out how big the Viking is, so since when has the Queen been smaller than the Dragoon?
The Queen size is taken from the Artwork itīs on stasis with a Protoss guard close to her. The Dragoon would look more or less the same size than the Queen, 4.6m was too much, i will set it to 4.2m. The back legs are the only thing protruding to a further height. The Dragoonīs height is calculated around itīs weapon. In The Ambush, the blue balls of energy have at least 1.2m diameter.
I also didnīt took into account the Queenīs wings, not the cannons on top of the Thor, but you can include them if you look at the lines. That adds some height to most units. Probably i should had included the Thorīs cannons, but the Queenīs wings probably wonīt add to her perceived height.
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Perfecttear
You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)
The viking is actually 50 m behind Raynor, so i don't know where you got only 4.8m ? Just look at the man behind Raynor, he is still quite few meters infront of the Viking, but is alredy atleast 4 times smaler than the viking.
50m from Raynor is too much, look at the floor, and the point where their feets touch the ground. Itīs closer to Raynor than the other guy. Anyways, i will take a height of 4.8m (a meter taller) from the picture of the Viking and the DT.
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Perfecttear
And as for the Thor, that can't be right. How could you put the Ultralisk before the Thor. I remember those pictures from blizzard where it showed humans standing on the thor, and they were realy really small. I would put the Thor size 45 - 60 m and not 15 ( It's not a viking :p)
Itīs that same picture. I just enlarged it until the Marine had the same size than the other. I will re-check it, however, when i get to my house again.
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Perfecttear
And the Colussus is no way only 40 m. I would put it more at 150 - 200 m. It's being described in the lore as being the size of a Skyscraper !
I took the size from the artwork where itīs shown along Dragoons and Reavers, but i will check the lore, and modify accordingly. Do you have a link?
[QUOTE=AegisKHAOS;43210]Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to reavers and dragoons.
Yeah, i didnīt include the shoulder cannons in the 15.5m, but it reaches 18m with them.
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AegisKHAOS
Of course, I'd take concept art and their scale with a grain of salt. I've seen Samwise Didier's siege tank which made THAT a 6 metre tall machine, and his omegalisk comes across at a 'mere' 15 metres.
Yes, itīs only a guesstimation.
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50m from Raynor is too much, look at the floor, and the point where their feets touch the ground. Itīs closer to Raynor than the other guy. Anyways, i will take a height of 4.8m (a meter taller) from the picture of the Viking and the DT.
Are you blind? It is nowhere near closer to Raynor than it is the other guy. They're both standing at the same height level, the other guy is standing BESIDE it.
You can even make comparisons with the cockpit. Someone would sit inside the cockpit and that would halve their height, it's still tall if you make some measurements.
Does Raynor honestly look like he fits in that little box back there to you with the comparison you're using? (Raynor at this distance to the Viking back there, and you think it's like they're standing beside each other)? There's no way a Viking is only 4.8 meter, and concept art is just that, concept art, it is NOTHING to be taken seriously.
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Norfindel
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Originally Posted by
AegisKHAOS
Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the
artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to
reavers and dragoons
Yeah, i didnīt include the shoulder cannons in the 15.5m, but it reaches 18m with them.
Yeah, because that Thor is OBVIOUSLY the one in the game.
TBH, I've always considered that "Thor" and the one in-game to be completely different.
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Norfindel
For the time being, i will use the image i posted in page 1, with the Dark Templar as reference, it should be 4.8m tall. My first impression was that it should be as large as a modern jet, but it seems like itīs a lot smaller, and close to what the Goliath was. Did you see Goliath pictures from SC:Ghost? Itīs really small.
That is NOT official blizzard concept art.:mad: It is (mediocre) fan art piece that was put up on blizzard's fan art gallery. The artist clearly had his proportions off, and likely made the mistake of of using in game unit models as a frame of reference.
Again I say, read Frontline vol. 1. there is an entire chapter dealing with the viking. You'll see that it is rather large, and, lorewise, quite powerful. (singlehandedly destroying an entire dominion base during an unveiling)
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Originally Posted by
Perfecttear
You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)!
i doubt that 15m is reasonable, it's nowhere that far from him
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Where did you get the scale for the ultra from? There is no way the Thor is that small compared to an ultralisk.
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Pandonetho
Are you blind? It is nowhere near closer to Raynor than it is the other guy. They're both standing at the same height level, the other guy is standing BESIDE it.
You can even make comparisons with the cockpit. Someone would sit inside the cockpit and that would halve their height, it's still tall if you make some measurements.
Does Raynor honestly look like he fits in that little box back there to you with the comparison you're using? (Raynor at this distance to the Viking back there, and you think it's like they're standing beside each other)? There's no way a Viking is only 4.8 meter, and concept art is just that, concept art, it is NOTHING to be taken seriously.
Ok, the guy back there is at the same distance, or slightly closer. Still, if we say that the cockpit has half of Raynor's height, 1.75m / 2 = 0.875m. The height is less than 6 times that, which is 5.25m, including that stuff over the Viking's cockpit, and the pic where it's seen with a DT for comparison can be measured to 4.8m, assuming the DT's height is 3m. I see no reason to take the height of the Viking as anything larger than around 5m.
Ridiculous, considering it transforms, and should be very complex? Probably, but that's how it's drawed.
For the records, i never used Raynor's size unmodified to make the comparison, i just projected Raynor's image with vanishing point.
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...5&d=1259535003
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phazonjunkie
That is NOT official blizzard concept art.:mad: It is (mediocre) fan art piece that was put up on blizzard's fan art gallery. The artist clearly had his proportions off, and likely made the mistake of of using in game unit models as a frame of reference.
Again I say, read Frontline vol. 1. there is an entire chapter dealing with the viking. You'll see that it is rather large, and, lorewise, quite powerful. (singlehandedly destroying an entire dominion base during an unveiling)
I meant this, it's in-game:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...4&d=1259533782
I cannot read frontline, it's not sold here. Would you like to upload a picture where it does stand very close to another unit?
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Hav0x
Where did you get the scale for the ultra from? There is no way the Thor is that small compared to an ultralisk.
The scale is from a Mr. Jack picture, with a Protoss there for comparison. Probably he exaggerated, but i had no other source to compare.
Here it's, the Protoss was taken as 3m long. The grey bar is slightly longer, because the Toss is standing lower than normally:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...7&d=1259536856
Here's how the height of the Thor can be measured:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...6&d=1259536383
That's at most 18m tall (the armored Terran taken at 2m tall).
Still, i think that the Ultralisk size is emphasized a lot by the fact it's a freaking massive beast. The Colossus doesn't looks menacing next to it.
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actually ya, i think the ultra is a bit large. if you watch the sc:ghost intro, the ultra seems about the size of the thor on that sheet.
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Norfindel
That is not official artwork of the ultra, its fanart.
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Hav0x
That is not official artwork of the ultra, its fanart.
the official do not differs that much
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Another one, the Siege Tank:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...8&d=1259538546
It measures to about 3.1m, but it's a little behind the Marine. What do you think, approx. 3.5m is fine? Generally, you don't want a Tank to be too tall, anyways, the M1 Abrams is "just" 2.44 m tall.
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Hav0x
That is not official artwork of the ultra, its fanart.
I know. I mentioned it in the OP, but it was the only one i found.
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Ok, the guy back there is at the same distance, or slightly closer.
What are you smoking? That guy back there can practically reach out and touch the gatling weapon of the Viking, Raynor is way too far to do that.
Second of all, taking concept art is 100% fail. People don't do concept art with scale in mind. Last but not least, using fanart is not the least bit credible.
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http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rionArmory.jpg
Taking a closer look at the man in the background, it appears to me that the the top of the viking's cockpit is around 4x taller than the man himself. Assuming he's around 1.8 meters, that mean's the viking would be at least 7 m. Somewhat smaller than I had originally stated, but substantially larger than a mere 4.8m.
But no matter which way we try to debate this, any figure we can come up with regarding respective unit dimensions is at best nothing more than an educated guess. it doesn't help that blizzard itself hasn't really shown much consistency in this regard.
Now that I think of it, wasn't there a thread a while back that dealt with the very same issue of unit sizes.
I think it came to the conclusion that any discussion regarding unit sizes without any official confirmation or 'spec sheets' is kinda pointless in the end.
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The omegalisk is probably a better measure of the ultralisk's height. The ultralisk shares the same model of the omegalisk, merely besides the fact that the tentacles are just plain spikes on the ultra. And that concept was design to replace the ultralisk in multiplayer, so I would definitely assume the two to be at near equal size.
http://starcraft.incgamers.com/galle...amwise038c.jpg
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The best i could find on the Zeratul vs Hydras cinematic is this, and it sucks, but the Hydra looks big, but probably not 4m tall. Sadly, it cannot be seen entirely:
Here, the Hydra is further away from the camera.
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...1&d=1259540760
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...0&d=1259540512
The part where it really looks like the Hydra is taller, is when Zeratul jumps to put his Warp Blade inside the Hydralisk's mouth, he hangs from the Hydra's head, and then lowers considerably.
I'm not sure, how taller you think it's? 3.3m? 3.5m?
(Hehe! Zeratul shows it's ass to camera at 1:32 :p)
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Pandonetho
What are you smoking? That guy back there can practically reach out and touch the gatling weapon of the Viking, Raynor is way too far to do that.
The guy back there is not that close to the Viking:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...9&d=1259540138
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Pandonetho
Second of all, taking concept art is 100% fail. People don't do concept art with scale in mind. Last but not least, using fanart is not the least bit credible.
Can you find something better? I would gladly use any better option.
Seriously nobody uses concept art for size comparison? Did you see the concept art of the Thor with only one Thor and one Marine at a 3m distance from it's feets? A classical combat scenario? I doubt it.
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spychi
the official do not differs that much
It's not even close.
http://starcraft2.com/images/artwork/ss76-hires.jpg
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The guy back there is not that close to the Viking:
Exactly what are your little lines supposed to show?
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Hav0x
It's not even close.
yeah, I actually thought that this artwork
http://ui18.gamespot.com/1297/ultrahires_2.jpg
is Blizzard official
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Kacaier
The omegalisk is probably a better measure of the ultralisk's height. The ultralisk shares the same model of the omegalisk, merely besides the fact that the tentacles are just plain spikes on the ultra. And that concept was design to replace the ultralisk in multiplayer, so I would definitely assume the two to be at near equal size.
http://starcraft.incgamers.com/galle...amwise038c.jpg
Good idea, thanks!!
I measured the Omegalisk by comparison with the front Marine to 11m, to it's tallest point. The tallest point is a little further away, so it's probably a little taller. If i use the gray guy flying back there, it's aprox. 15.8m, so it probably measures something between the two measurements, say, 13.5m ?
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Norfindel
Those are terrible references to use, especially when the angle really skews the perspective enough to make your vanishing point moot, and that you have a more obvious scale to use as reference, aka. the man standing next to the Viking's gatling. The line you used to measure the platform on one side towards where the man is standing, they're not the same distance at all. Clearly one is, in fact, closer to the Viking than the other. Even if the man were 'not as close' to the Viking, it's still closer to the Viking than anything else you've used; the very perspective of the man has him standing on front of the mech, slightly off to the right. No way he's the same distance as Raynor. When you use THAT man as the measure of height, there's absolutely NO WAY the Viking is a mere 4 to 5 metres in height.
As mentioned, it should at about eight metres based on that point of reference. Of course, for those who have read the Frontline mangas, the Vikings have apparently been depicted as even larger than the 8 metres mentioned, which also would make more sense than the 4.8 metres shown in that diagram.
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AegisKHAOS
Those are terrible references to use, especially when the angle really skews the perspective enough to make your vanishing point moot, and that you have a more obvious scale to use as reference, aka. the man standing next to the Viking's gatling. The line you used to measure the platform on one side towards where the man is standing, they're not the same distance at all. Clearly one is, in fact, closer to the Viking than the other. Even if the man were 'not as close' to the Viking, it's still closer to the Viking than anything else you've used; the very perspective of the man has him standing on front of the mech, slightly off to the right. No way he's the same distance as Raynor. When you use THAT man as the measure of height, there's absolutely NO WAY the Viking is a mere 4 to 5 metres in height.
As mentioned, it should at about eight metres based on that point of reference. Of course, for those who have read the Frontline mangas, the Vikings have apparently been depicted as even larger than the 8 metres mentioned, which also would make more sense than the 4.8 metres shown in that diagram.
That isn't done with vanishing point, they're just lines drawn to show where everyone is standing. The image drawn with vanishing point is shown in another thread: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....2&postcount=23
Wankey used the guy back there directly, and still isn't larger than 6.5m: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....8&postcount=20
Anyways, it's been compared with another method, and the results are similar: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....0&postcount=20 , and they are similar to the artwork with the DT and the Viking.
As i see it, it's a fairly small manned vehicle like the Goliath it replaces, superior to a Marine in powered armor, but not as big as a modern fighter.
Until i see some objective data, i'll going to thrust that results, as they're reasonably similar.
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Rather than basing on 'controversial' vanishing points or relative heights as seen in art which may have a certain degree of artistic license injected into them, let's all take a step back and look at the Viking's actual design:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st...SC2_Cncpt1.jpg
As can be seen, the head alon makes up the entirety of the cockpit where the pilot will be seated. If you assume the height of the cockpit is at least 1.2 meters (4 feet), logic would dictate that the Viking would be at least greater than the 4 to 5 meter height previously suggested.
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mr. peasant
Rather than basing on 'controversial' vanishing points or relative heights as seen in art which may have a certain degree of artistic license injected into them, let's all take a step back and look at the Viking's actual
design:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st...SC2_Cncpt1.jpg
As can be seen, the head alon makes up the entirety of the cockpit where the pilot will be seated. If you assume the height of the cockpit is at least 1.2 meters (4 feet), logic would dictate that the Viking would be at least greater than the 4 to 5 meter height previously suggested.
Yes, using that picture, 7.5m tall is reasonable. But at this point, the unit is very different from that drawing, which seems to be used for the Frontline manga, according to the sc wiki.
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Norfindel
Yes, using that picture, 7.5m tall is reasonable. But at this point, the unit is very different from that drawing, which seems to be used for the Frontline manga, according to the sc wiki.
Perhaps but its scale should more or less be somewhat similar. Otherwise, it would be a completely different unit. More evidence can be seen in that it is a direct successor to the Wyrm, which would again suggest they are similar in size.
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Originally Posted by
Norfindel
That isn't done with vanishing point, they're just lines drawn to show where everyone is standing. The image drawn with vanishing point is shown in another thread:
http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....2&postcount=23
Wankey used the guy back there directly, and still isn't larger than 6.5m: [url]http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30788&postcount=20[/url
Was also editing the post and rewrote a bunch of stuff late at night, so that blob of text is actually a big mess. :P Either way, you can't say the man and Raynor are the same distance to the Viking, and I still don't see how said machine can even be as small as you say beyond that one concept art with the DT (and we all know full well, perspective aside, that they're merely just concept arts to begin with).
Actually, by your own post, I'm reading that as being 12 metres in height, more than Wankey's 6.5 metres (to which I will agree that the man isn't standing as close as others think; the man should appear even smaller if he were to stand next to it). I'm thinking more like eight to ten metres myself, though either way, they're not similar at all.
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Re: SC units at scale (warning: BIG image)
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Originally Posted by
mr. peasant
Perhaps but its scale should more or less be somewhat similar. Otherwise, it would be a completely different unit. More evidence can be seen in that it is a direct successor to the
Wyrm, which would again suggest they are similar in size.
I see two possibilities: the Viking has similar size than the Wyrm, and the model on Hyperion's bay is bad; or they changed the unit's size at some point.
You know what? For the time being, and as the concept art is from the Wyrm anyways, i will just set it at 7.5m tall, and assume it's a Wyrm.
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Originally Posted by
AegisKHAOS
Was also editing the post and rewrote a bunch of stuff late at night, so that blob of text is actually a big mess. :P Either way, you can't say the man and Raynor are the same distance to the Viking, and I still don't see how said machine can even be as small as you say beyond that one concept art with the DT (and we all know full well, perspective aside, that they're merely just concept arts to begin with).
I'm not interested anymore into discussing if the guy is at a similar distance or not, because it just doesn't matters. If you can see half a human thru that vertical cockpit, there's no way that thing has more than 5.5m.
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Originally Posted by
AegisKHAOS
Actually, by your own post, I'm reading that as being 12 metres in height, more than Wankey's 6.5 metres (to which I will agree that the man isn't standing as close as others think; the man should appear even smaller if he were to stand next to it). I'm thinking more like eight to ten metres myself, though either way, they're not similar at all.
The pilot won't be in standing position back of that glass. We were assuming that you can see half of the pilot, at most.
Anyways, at this point, i added a question about the "real-world" unit sizes in battle.net. If they answer that, we're going to get the exact measurements, and there would be no problem with subjetivities.
