SC2 has In-Combat Quips

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10-30-2009, 02:38 AM
pure.Wasted

SC2 has In-Combat Quips

Remember back in the day, when the SC2 website was actually being updated, we got a few very curious gems in the uploaded quotes from many of the Protoss units? Immortals talk about the enemy breaking, the Mothership gets all worried about being undone once they're breached, the Void Ray mentions that his enemies have already been purged, and so on, and so forth. For a while that was interesting and then I assume most people forgot. I know I did.

And then recently I was re-watching the singleplayer demo from BlizzCon... and what did I stumble across if not random in-combat quips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9YXVpi_mKQ

The firefight starts at 3:35 or so. From then, the Marines call out "How's that for whoop-ass?!" numerous times when they have obviously been given no new orders, among other phrases such as "Get some!" (3:37) and "Medic!" (3:53).

Nothing strictly new, but it is a confirmation of our suspicions. I wonder what specifically triggers them, and how many there are per unit. Will Marines call out for Medics in multiplayer when a player only has access to Medivacs (it would still be true, just not quite as literally as before; same function, different name)? Will they call out for Medics when you have none on the battlefield, just as figuratively? They're going to need some complex triggers, too. "Medic!" works whether you're winning or losing a battle, but something like the Immortal's "The enemy is undone" might sound weird when only one Immortal is alive, and has managed to somehow kill 4 units in a row out of a 30 unit army.

Iiiinterestink. Veeeery interestink.
10-30-2009, 06:48 AM
Kimera757

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

That's single-player; they're probably quasi-random transmissions.
10-30-2009, 08:14 AM
Alzarath

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Originally Posted by Kimera757

That's single-player; they're probably quasi-random transmissions.

Way to break our hopes and dreams.

That'd be awesome if they did have that kinda stuff though.
10-30-2009, 09:09 AM
Visions of Khas

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

That could be useful, especially when you're having to macro and pull away from the center of combat. Of course it could annoy other players, so it might be an option that's toggled between on and off.

In the instance of losing all but a few units in a force, it might be cool for the surviving units to mention something about a Pyrrhic victory.

I NEED the Zealots to say, "Give them nothing - and take from them EVERYTHING!" :D

I never noticed this before. I really like this feature.
10-30-2009, 09:30 AM
StrongCoffee

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Well, that would be really interesting. And I bet then it would be, not only in the campaign, but in multiplayer too. Come on, if they made 30-40 decals for EACH race, they can make 3-4 triggered quotes per unit.
10-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Ghost_828

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Most recently, Dawn of War 2 uses this to great effect. It adds to the realism considerably.
10-30-2009, 10:36 AM
StrongCoffee

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Originally Posted by Ghost_828

Most recently, Dawn of War 2 uses this to great effect. It adds to the realism considerably.

cant agree more with that. It creates a great "in battle" feeling if is well done
10-30-2009, 10:42 AM
Rizhall

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Originally Posted by Ghost_828

Most recently, Dawn of War 2 uses this to great effect. It adds to the realism considerably.

Yeah. Like when you first encounter your enemy, for example, you're space marines, and you find your first your opponent on the map after scouting, you're guy will go "Eldar...."
Or the Chaos shouting out "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR"

I think it'd be cool if SCV, in his red neck voice, went "Boss, we got trouble... it's the Zerg!"
Or a Probe beeping sporadically while in the portrait screen, it projects a holographic image of an SCV, briefly.
Toggle-able, of course.
10-30-2009, 12:12 PM
sandwich_bird

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I'm pretty sure that super hardcore idiots from tl.net would be crying if this is in multiplayer.
10-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Nicol Bolas

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

As long as these aren't endlessly repeated the same phrases over and over again for no good reason, I'm game.
10-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Rogueleader89

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Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas

As long as these aren't endlessly repeated the same phrases over and over again for no good reason, I'm game.

agreed, this could be very annoying if done incorrectly, and for the fact that eventually we will hear every single phrase and tire of them I would just keep it to singleplayer so as to avoid that possibility. Of course make them also open for us mapmakers to toggle on and off too.
10-30-2009, 03:52 PM
Kimera757

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

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Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas

As long as these aren't endlessly repeated the same phrases over and over again for no good reason, I'm game.

This was done in Stalin vs Martians (that is, endlessly repeated). I don't need to keep hearing "I am like Bolshevik on bicycle", "I'm dying" or "I'm Ivan, I like you" over and over again. (No, I didn't buy the game, I just watched videos of it.)

For those who have actually played Warcraft III (I almost feel like making a poll on this, due to the massive amount of map editor questions), you'll remember missions where every time the enemy hero attacked your base, either they mocked/threatened you, or your hero shouted something like "we've got to hold the line!"
10-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Pandonetho

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At first I read the thread as "SC2 has In-Combat equips" as in, lol what marines can equip different weapons?
10-30-2009, 04:39 PM
Kimera757

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StarCraft: Ghost had that...
10-30-2009, 08:54 PM
pure.Wasted

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

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Originally Posted by Kimera757

For those who have actually played Warcraft III (I almost feel like making a poll on this, due to the massive amount of map editor questions), you'll remember missions where every time the enemy hero attacked your base, either they mocked/threatened you, or your hero shouted something like "we've got to hold the line!"

Hold your ground! The Ko-dos must be pro-tec-ted!
10-31-2009, 01:47 AM
Ghost_828

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas

As long as these aren't endlessly repeated the same phrases over and over again for no good reason, I'm game.

To refer once again to Dawn of War 2, take the Ork Slugga Squad as an example. This basic squad has about 400 - 500 lines, each of which was performed by three different voice actors.

Granted, one must however draw the line between a variety of lines and the required development time to to record and implement the quips.
10-31-2009, 02:54 PM
PhanttoM

Re: SC2 has In-Combat Quips

I thought this was standard in RTS games by now. The furthest back I remember, is from Red Alert 2 (released 2000) where units would yell for help when receiving heavy damage within a short time.

You didn't hear it very often, so I could imagine limits like;
• 1x comment per unit type every 2 minutes
• Only currently selected units make comments
Combine that with the fact that each unit have multiple comments, then it shouldn't be a problem.