Can a terran marine...

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Maybe. Sizes have never stayed constant in Starcraft.

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That's definitely true.

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Originally Posted by Kacaier

That sounds physically impossible, even being 8 feet tall, having super muscles and a power suit.

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Except it did happen; in the anthology Let the Galaxy Burn a squad of Dark Angels, advancing through enemy fire, cover a distance of eighty meters in "seconds." It's not just super muscles, everything about the Space Marines has been altered to such a degree that they can't realistically be called human anymore. Combined with the fact that they were wearing power armor that increases their already superhuman abilities, and it is more than possible for them to be as fast or faster than Olympic sprinters.

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Originally Posted by Pandonetho

However, the excuse all fanboys use regarding WH40K is "god did it." Also, can't a powersuit enhance your running speed? It's not like you yourself is physically exerting more strength, it's all the hydraulics or whatever doing it right? Well regardless, I don't think Space Marine power suits do that anyway, they look like they're just pieces of armour attached the the SM.

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No, it is a full suit, like a Terran Marine's (only better :D )

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Originally Posted by Lupino

Except it did happen; in the anthology Let the Galaxy Burn a squad of Dark Angels, advancing through enemy fire, cover a distance of eighty meters in "seconds." It's not just super muscles, everything about the Space Marines has been altered to such a degree that they can't realistically be called human anymore. Combined with the fact that they were wearing power armor that increases their already superhuman abilities, and it is more than possible for them to be as fast or faster than Olympic sprinters.

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Why the hell they need super-infantry so badly? That must cost too much to be cost-effective, specially considering the amount of marines that you can send into oblivion with one bomb.

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Why the hell they need super-infantry so badly? That must cost too much to be cost-effective, specially considering the amount of marines that you can send into oblivion with one bomb.

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Apparently they're more akin to special op units. They're dropped into zones to sweep up or do operations that normal humans wouldn't be able to achieve.

Also, they have "god" on their side.

WOAH! Did a topic about starcraft turn into a topic about Space Marines?!?!?

Shaaaaaaame guys. Shaaaaaaaaaaame.

It's in the off-topic subforum after al...

Maybe the mods foresaw this and had it moved here from the beginning... it was their sinister plan all along...

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Originally Posted by Pandonetho

Apparently they're more akin to special op units. They're dropped into zones to sweep up or do operations that normal humans wouldn't be able to achieve.

Also, they have "god" on their side.

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Oh, they are religious fanatics. That explains it :D

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Originally Posted by Pandonetho

However, they probably have to be pretty damn strong if they can knock over a firebat (SC: Ghost trailer). When you think about it a firebat has probably got to be pretty heavy, 500 pounds maybe? More? Tychus alone is already 363 add another 200 pounds (or more I bet, to the suit) and you have one heavy guy. Zerglings don't seem very heavy (the FB chucked one away with his arm after toasting it) but yet they're seemingly heavy enough to knock him off balance even with the auto-balancing function of the CMC suits.

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A human being is, what, half the size of a Marine suit at best? Based on that size, nothing below 500 pounds for the suit alone sounds remotely plausible to me, and even that's stretching it. Each suit has an engine powering it, and a car engine weighs from 500-1000 pounds according to wiki.

Given futuristic efficiency and all that, I'd guess a ton for the whole suit, and a little extra for its occupant.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

Why the hell they need super-infantry so badly? That must cost too much to be cost-effective, specially considering the amount of marines that you can send into oblivion with one bomb.

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Because, despite all the wankery they have in comparison to normal humans, it's needed to actually make them comparable to the real big baddies of the universe. Everything a Space Marine can do, something out there can do as good or better in one area or another; for example, Orks are so strong that they can wear armor that would require the strength of half a dozen men just to hold up, have such a ridiculous pain threshold and biological redundancy that they can survive having their head chopped off and sewn back onto another Ork body with very few problems. It's possible for a human to beat an Ork in combat, but very unlikely he'll survive against a whole Mob of Boyz, and when you have a SpecOps mission of vital importance you need to send your very best to accomplish it.

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Originally Posted by pure.Wasted

A human being is, what, half the size of a Marine suit at best? Based on that size, nothing below 500 pounds for the suit alone sounds remotely plausible to me, and even that's stretching it. Each suit has an engine powering it, and a car engine weighs from 500-1000 pounds according to wiki.

Given futuristic efficiency and all that, I'd guess a ton for the whole suit, and a little extra for its occupant.

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According to Liberty's Crusade a Marine's suit is "several hundred pounds" heavy, so low-end about 100kg or more. But a car engine is quite a bit larger than the one that powers a suit, I don't think that's a good way to judge it by.

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Originally Posted by Lupino

Because, despite all the wankery they have in comparison to normal humans, it's needed to actually make them comparable to the real big baddies of the universe. Everything a Space Marine can do, something out there can do as good or better in one area or another; for example, Orks are so strong that they can wear armor that would require the strength of half a dozen men just to hold up, have such a ridiculous pain threshold and biological redundancy that they can survive having their head chopped off and sewn back onto another Ork body with very few problems. It's possible for a human to beat an Ork in combat, but very unlikely he'll survive against a whole Mob of Boyz, and when you have a SpecOps mission of vital importance you need to send your very best to accomplish it.

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Well, i suppose they don't have any other options with some kind of missions, if they cannot fill the gap by making better powered armor.

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Originally Posted by Lupino

According to Liberty's Crusade a Marine's suit is "several hundred pounds" heavy, so low-end about 100kg or more. But a car engine is quite a bit larger than the one that powers a suit, I don't think that's a good way to judge it by.

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It was never mentioned on what power does the armor run, but seeing how small was a fusion bomb, the power supply doesn't needs to be too heavy and bulky. The "backpack" seems to be an air conditioner, according to Liberty's Crusade.