Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
After reading Flashpoint, I'd say Raynor is emotionally consumed by a lot of things. At the time, he grasps to the small piece of hope he has left. He no longer cares about the mayor conflict. This piece of hope is Kerrigan. WoL Raynor was an attempt to end the suffering he started, but Valerian removed this forced rendemption after telling him about the artifact plan. This is why the crew is so mad, because he exchanged his unwanted conflicts for the love of his life.
In my head, he never told Kerrigan about the prophecy because he no longer cares. All he ever wanted about saving Kerrigan was the old Sarah he knew. He wanted to go back to Mar Sara and drink to death with her. Raynor's dialogue felt like a selfish rant against the universe. He hates that Kerrigan can't forget mengsk, and he hates they can't be together. Eventually, he probably drinks a lot and cries some more. Then, he told Matt they would help Kerrigan beat Mengsk. After HotS he probably said, "what now?"
and
Yey, HotS rant list:
-Dehaka not having an arm
-Whole Primal Zerg clan thing
-Frozen Protoss without heaters
-Mengsk's superweapons
-Archon Narud and Harry Potter duel
-mutalisks, ultralisks kill everything
-The obvious LotV zerg protagonist
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
I was considering reading Flashpoint.
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After reading Flashpoint, I'd say Raynor is emotionally consumed by a lot of things. At the time, he grasps to the small piece of hope he has left. He no longer cares about the mayor conflict.
Now, I'm not.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
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The_Blade
In my head, he never told Kerrigan about the prophecy because he no longer cares. All he ever wanted about saving Kerrigan was the old Sarah he knew. He wanted to go back to Mar Sara and drink to death with her. Raynor's dialogue felt like a selfish rant against the universe. He hates that Kerrigan can't forget mengsk, and he hates they can't be together. Eventually, he probably drinks a lot and cries some more. Then, he told Matt they would help Kerrigan beat Mengsk. After HotS he probably said, "what now?"
and
Yey, HotS rant list:
-Dehaka not having an arm
-Whole Primal Zerg clan thing
-Frozen Protoss without heaters
-Mengsk's superweapons
-Archon Narud and Harry Potter duel
-mutalisks, ultralisks kill everything
-The obvious LotV zerg protagonist
This is exactly why even by the end of HotS, Raynor still didn't really BELIEVE in the prophecy. All he's accepted at this point is that the prophecy cannot be ignored.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
But belief isn't really required when there is definitive physical proof with the Ihan crystal and that Overmind vision thingy. Raynor may be disbelieving of it's contents and Kerrigan may have mind-read that disbelief from him at any given time between the end of WoL and the start of HotS but she would have paid credence to anything regarding "the prophecy" given her own first-hand experience finding out that there is a real threat during the 4 years of searching pre-WoL. One can't just say she has selective amnesia of her time as the QoB because then that would render her attacking Zeratul in a pre-emptive action due to his attack on her in WoL nonsensical because she shouldn't technically remember that.
Either way, Kerrigan's attack on Zeratul for no reason is consistent with her unnecessary slaughter of Protoss on Kaldir. At the least, we can take that as more evidence of her warped moral code if you will.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
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Turalyon
But belief isn't really required when there is definitive physical proof with the Ihan crystal and that Overmind vision thingy.
Not to mention an actual living hybrid in the Castanar mission.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
IMO, it's not about Raynor believing or not believing in the prophecy. He believes it's a real danger, but he is no longer attatched to the universal commitment he had in BW.
Raynor timeline:
-Military (Inocents are killed)
-Bandit (All of his friends are killed)
-Settle down (Son is presumed death and wife dies)
-Marshal (Whole planet was melted)
-Sons of Korhal (Witnesses the death of Tarsonis and Sarah)
-Rebel (Burns his fleet down on Char and finds the monster)
-Protoss Companion (Aiur was infested and he lost his Protoss friend, Tassadar)
-Kerrigan Team (Forced to work with Mengsk, Witnessed planetary annihalation again, lost Fenix)
-Drinking Days (sad memories)
-WoL (Planetary infestations everywhere, best friend dies, Zeratul with his tidings of doom and Kerrigan is rescued)
-Flashpoint (He trusts Valerian to do the right thing, Sarah is back, Narud is evil)
Raynor is probably the true Terran who has seen the most death. He is good at dealing with conflict because that's what he has been doing his entire life. This does not mean he is happy or even sane. Matt constantly has to drag him around during his relapses and for all we know he is dealing with larger, more difficult challenges as his story evolves. After Flashpoint, Raynor has only a few rouge contacts while Valerian has a larger fleet and even more political contacts. Raynor understands Jr. can deal with all the trouble himself. Therefore, he just wants to be in peace after all this torture.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
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The_Blade
Raynor is probably the true Terran who has seen the most death. He is good at dealing with conflict because that's what he has been doing his entire life. This does not mean he is happy or even sane. Matt constantly has to drag him around during his relapses and for all we know he is dealing with larger, more difficult challenges as his story evolves. After Flashpoint, Raynor has only a few rouge contacts while Valerian has a larger fleet and even more political contacts. Raynor understands Jr. can deal with all the trouble himself. Therefore, he just wants to be in peace after all this torture.
Yeah, but right now he's wondering if there will EVER be peace. With Kerrigan free and Mengsk gone, this was supposed to be the end of the nightmare.
Instead, the Xel'Naga prophecy (which he doesn't even believe in) is making it sound like the nightmare's just getting started.
He's worn out and everything. Maybe that could be another reason for Kerrigan's actions in taking the battle to Amon, hoping she could find a way to finish it herself so that Raynor doesn't have to fight the battle anymore.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
The same can be said about Valerian, though. He knew about the Prophecy too. He even spent more time with Kerrigan than Raynor did in HotS, either in person or on comms.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
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ragnarok
Instead, the Xel'Naga prophecy (which he doesn't even believe in) is making it sound like the nightmare's just getting started.
Do we know for sure he doesn't believe in it? I mean, he was friends with Zeratul, so it's weird he'd disregard the thing.
Re: Did Raynor tell Kerrigan she's supposed to save the universe?
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Turalyon
Either way, Kerrigan's attack on Zeratul for no reason is consistent with her unnecessary slaughter of Protoss on Kaldir. At the least, we can take that as more evidence of her warped moral code if you will.
Zeratul is quite likely among the Sector's deadliest assassins, has more than enough reasons to want Kerrigan dead and has just made his way to the heart of Kerrigan's Leviathan uninvited. She is completely justified in expecting danger and striking him down fast and hard. This is not evidence of a warped moral code.
