Can anyone tell me where this info is from and if it's canon or not?

It has some pretty damn cool stuff, but I'm leaning towards non canon status because of some of the outrageously unrealistic stuff.

Like running at 120 MPH? Wow.

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3Den%26sa%3DG

It could be from the board game or the RPG game, and if it is, its canon, but im not sure where he got that info.

Edit: Well the 120 mph at least makes sense, the Vulture goes 230 mph and is a scout vehicle, so its not completely outlandish that a Goliath is running 120 mph.

That's not the only thing. It also has close combat fighting abilities. That, is ridiculous. Jumping 3 meters high? That's also outrageous.

What? Now thats outlandish.

Edit: Its fake, reading the Vulture article shows it:

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Originally Posted by Vulture Article

Hover: The hover propulsion system enables the vehicle to hover stationary up to 500' (152.4 m) from the ground or to fly up to 300 mph (482.8 km/h). Maximum flying altitude is 2500' (762 m)

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Non-cannon. It's for an RPG. MDC stands for mega damage capacity, a concept lifted from Rifts.

I've seen several similar fan-based RPGs developed. They're pretty cool, and some have very interesting backstory for the Protoss and Zerg.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

RPG. MDC stands for mega damage capacity, a concept lifted from Rifts.

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Is it truly from the Starcraft RPG, or is it just used in other fan-made RPG games?

Look at the legal disclaimers at the bottom. Palladium produced Rifts, and here the author acknowledged them.

At least, I'm pretty sure this is fan-based.

EDIT Oh yeah, I remember this site now. Yeah, fan-based. That doesn't make it any less awesome, though. =]

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

Look at the legal disclaimers at the bottom. Palladium produced Rifts, and here the author acknowledged them.

At least, I'm pretty sure this is fan-based.

EDIT Oh yeah, I remember this site now. Yeah, fan-based. That doesn't make it any less awesome, though. =]

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Well, there you go, non-canon, though the speed still makes some sense for the Goliath, any news on that?

Can't say, though it seems a bit fast to me. Suppose it had to be fast and maneuverable in an urban setting, though.

Vultures canonically can go at speeds of 230 mph, so its not completely outlandish.(I think it was brought up in Liberty's crusade.)

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Vultures canonically can go at speeds of 230 mph, so its not completely outlandish.(I think it was brought up in Liberty's crusade.)

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They can also fly, as shown in Issue #2 of the StarCraft Comic by Wildstorm.
I do regard that comic as canon.

Really? Do you know where I could see it or buy it?

I don't think that's canon, and that Goliath looks too much advanced. Reporting external air conditions to the user? It's not like the damn thing will be deployed without any support at all, and i expect the pilot to wear a sealed protection suit, anyways, but i see how that can be useful in an RPG.

About the Vulture, the speed is on the Starcraft compendium itself, so it's canon:

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The reliable Vulture-Class Hover Bike, used primarily for scouting and patrol, can reach speeds of up to two hundred and thirty miles per hour. Standard armament is an anti-personnel grenade launcher, but newer Vulture models also carry a Spider Mine deployment system for perimeter defense.

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That's 370 Km/h. Drive safe :p

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Is it truly from the Starcraft RPG, or is it just used in other fan-made RPG games?

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That isn't from the StarCraft RPG. Honestly, if the StarCraft RPG had that kind of detail in it, it wouldn't have sucked nearly so much.

120mph? Going off of what I've seen from the Battletech universe, that's ridiculous even for the lightest and fastest mechs, which are normally around 100kph. Anybody know how much the Goliath is supposed to weigh?

It's a walker, there's no sense in comparing it to a Vulture which is a hover craft not impeded by rough Terrain. It is absolutely ridiculous that it can run at 120 MILES per hour.

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Originally Posted by Pandonetho

It's a walker, there's no sense in comparing it to a Vulture which is a hover craft not impeded by rough Terrain. It is absolutely ridiculous that it can run at 120 MILES per hour.

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You have a point there, but I can actually picture a Goliath running at those speeds, even as weird as it may seem.

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I can only agree - It's rediculous to the point of being a cartoonish joke.

There's no way anything two-legged is ever gonna be running at those speeds. Two legs means limited traction, reguardless of weight and/or engine power.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Really? Do you know where I could see it or buy it?

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Sure do :)
Here:
Vultures
More Vultures
Even more of them
They are everywhere!
Nooooooo...last one :(

Also... The cheetah runs at half of the supposed goliath speed, I am sure fine tuned hydraulics and a superbs sensory system can push the goliath up in quite the impressive speeds.
The jump 3 meters high should be doable... we have 4 legged robots that can jump almost half that hight with todays technology:
Meet: Big Dog
SC is afer all 200 years in the future.

Wait, 120 mph? I read that as kilometers, not miles. That's one hell of a stretch.

Now, to delve deeper into this site and find out what else I forgot...

Oh yeah, haha! This setting has given Khalai control over psi, while Dark Templar -- and zerg by extension -- are granted magical abilities.

I remember another RPG that explored the period of zerg internecine and various cerebrates grappling with the loss of the Overmind. It was pretty interesting. I'll see if I can't find it. I think either Mya Thevendra or another legendary SC fan worked on it.

EDIT Interesting timeline I found.


Alright people, we need to get our own SC RPG going. :D

Ok wtf? Flying vultures? What the hell?

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Originally Posted by Pandonetho

Ok wtf? Flying vultures? What the hell?

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Okay, since thats canon, than 120 mph Goliaths are that far fetched.......

You don't even need to consider physics, a mecha that runs at 120mph on two legs isn't likely to be very nice to pilot (jumping, vomiting, you get the idea).

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Originally Posted by Equiliari

Sure do :)
Here:
Vultures
More Vultures
Even more of them
They are everywhere!
Nooooooo...last one :(

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God, that's retarded. Why the hell do they call them hoverbikes?

And in Heaven's Devils (the preview) they don't fly.

Oh, this is rich. Info from that Palladium site, on the creep colony: "The tentacle has a range of 6 miles (9.7 km)".

Ohkay...

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Oh, this is rich. Info from that Palladium site, on the creep colony: "The tentacle has a range of 6 miles (9.7 km)".

Ohkay...

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I see your ridiculous tentacle range and raise you a flying dragoon:

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- Atmospheric Propulsion: Maximum cruise speed is 93.2 mph (150 km/h), with a maximum ceiling of 2000’ (610 m). The Dragon can only fly for two minutes before the engines need to cool down for five minutes.
- Sublight: The cyborg is not really designed for sublight travel, but it can accelerate at a rate of 5 miles per second (8 km/s).

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Originally Posted by Equiliari

Also... The cheetah runs at half of the supposed goliath speed, I am sure fine tuned hydraulics and a superbs sensory system can push the goliath up in quite the impressive speeds.
The jump 3 meters high should be doable... we have 4 legged robots that can jump almost half that hight with todays technology:
Meet: Big Dog
SC is afer all 200 years in the future.

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The jumps are more credible as they are a downward force pushing it up, ie. opposite direction - the kinetics for running are different.
A cheetah has 4 legs for better traction. Closest animal to the goliath would be the ostrich, which runs up to 45 mph.

But all the technical believabilityaside, anyone played Earthsiege 2 or Starsiege? Mechs in that game had a turbo add-on, but it looked horrificly stupid seeing a mech run at even only 150 kph, because it begins bobbing up and down as if it has serious spasms.
Which brings us to the points Norfindel mentioned...lol

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

I see your ridiculous tentacle range and raise you a flying dragoon:

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8 km/s ??? Why they let junkies write specs? :rolleyes:
At that speed, a crashing Dragoon could destroy an entire enemy base... probably more.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Okay, since thats canon, than 120 mph Goliaths are that far fetched.......

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Since it's canon, I think it should appear in the campaign as an upgrade or something. Anti-infantry air scouts would be a nice niche, I think.

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Originally Posted by Muspelli

Since it's canon, I think it should appear in the campaign as an upgrade or something. Anti-infantry air scouts would be a nice niche, I think.

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In Fear the Reaper, reapers temporarily become air units (and can shoot while "flying"). Very much unlike the game. They can also throw their charges from mid-air. Scary.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

You don't even need to consider physics, a mecha that runs at 120mph on two legs isn't likely to be very nice to pilot (jumping, vomiting, you get the idea).

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Inertial dampeners could take care of that. Terrans should have at least some form of it.

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In Fear the Reaper, reapers temporarily become air units (and can shoot while "flying"). Very much unlike the game. They can also throw their charges from mid-air. Scary.

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I think this is a skosh more realistic than flying 'goons.

At least the dimensions they have for some of the units seem pretty accurate, at least comparable to the measurements I calculated out some time ago.

Having Vultures that "fly" isn't really a big stretch at all. They don't work on the same methods of modern hovercraft. Your typical hovercraft sits on a "ball" produced by air being compressed under the craft and contained within a curtain of sorts. The Vulture works more like a helicopter — producing a stabilized thrust that enables the vehicle to maintain an altitude. It wouldn't be too hard to adjust your thrusters so it would take you to a higher altitude, but naturally it takes more fuel. Where it would start to get ridiculous is if Vultures could do things like match the maneuvering capabilities of an aircraft or achieve escape velocity.

I agree, I found the opening scene of the second SC comic quite natural. Vultures work by means of combining conventional thrust with anti-gravity, the latter mechanic we know sadly little about, so I wouldn't compare it so quickly to helicopters.

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In Fear the Reaper, reapers temporarily become air units (and can shoot while "flying"). Very much unlike the game. They can also throw their charges from mid-air. Scary.

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Well, they do have Jetpacks that allow them to jump high cliffs. I don't see why they couldn't jettison themselves into the air for an aerial advantage while throwing or shooting stuff.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

Wait, 120 mph? I read that as kilometers, not miles. That's one hell of a stretch.

Now, to delve deeper into this site and find out what else I forgot...

Oh yeah, haha! This setting has given Khalai control over psi, while Dark Templar -- and zerg by extension -- are granted magical abilities.

I remember another RPG that explored the period of zerg internecine and various cerebrates grappling with the loss of the Overmind. It was pretty interesting. I'll see if I can't find it. I think either Mya Thevendra or another legendary SC fan worked on it.

EDIT Interesting timeline I found.


Alright people, we need to get our own SC RPG going. :D

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Nerf dark-seers chain lightning

shit.


Regarding the vultures flying thing I think that makes a lot of sense. They're only "flying" like 50 feet above the air. In the game, when wraiths fly and 10,000 feet, vultures as an ground unit makes sense.

And I doubt they can fly at 50 feet For nearly as long as they can maintain a average hoovering hight.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Inertial dampeners could take care of that. Terrans should have at least some form of it.

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In a Goliath? Isn't that too advanced? We are talking about really small mecha here.

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Originally Posted by Norfindel

In a Goliath? Isn't that too advanced? We are talking about really small mecha here.

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Do Vikings and Wraiths have inertial dampeners? I'm sure they could fit one into a Goliath if they do. These are the Terrans that can blow up planets in Terra forming accidents, so its not beyond them.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...h12/Boom-1.jpg

Where'd that picture come from? Also, how come there are Protoss ships there as well?

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Where'd that picture come from? Also, how come there are Protoss ships there as well?

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Frontline, I haven't read it myself, but I know its not a Protoss bombardment, this is a protoss bombardment:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/247...tossstylep.jpg

I posted this one because the normal image with regular color is fuzzy.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Archon

Do Vikings and Wraiths have inertial dampeners? I'm sure they could fit one into a Goliath if they do. These are the Terrans that can blow up planets in Terra forming accidents, so its not beyond them.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...h12/Boom-1.jpg

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Not sure, but in one of the old SC novels, they say that a Siege Tank can manipulate it's mass. However, that would make the siege mode completely stupid, so probably the writer just didn't know wtf he was talking about.