Why invade the terran sector?

Why did Kerrigan invade the terran worlds instead of protoss planets while looking for artifacts in WoL? Considering that pretty much all of them (bar the one on Mar Sara) were in the possession of the Tal'Darim, why even invade the terran sector at all? Why not invade Shakuras? Sure, Kerrigan doesn't have the benefit of hindsight, but why would the terrans have it, and not the protoss, who do pretty much nothing but investigate this type of stuff? Clearly, if the protoss were so bored that they had a fake battle with Raynor on Haven that barely even concerned them, then they weren't hard-pressed by Kerrigan at all.

I'd say she knew about the artifacts through the prophesy. She also found that Terrans were producing hybrids. So, Terrans might have some artifacts. Yet again, she acts like a 10 year old with a large hammer.

To be fair, we don't know that Kerrigan didn't invade Protoss space, too. We have absolutely no perspective of her incursions into non-Terran regions. She did, however, invade two of the planets you found Artifacts on, one of which was inhabited by Protoss. You also have to consider that she was aware Duran was working for the Dominion and suspected his mass production of the Hybrids, so focusing on comparatively weak terran worlds first kind of makes sense.

Sup Kerri, we heard you like artifacts so we... Eh, you can fill the rest in. Makes just as much sense either way.

I'm still having trouble with the fact that even despite having the most numbers on her side, spread out looking for the artifacts and most likely knowing about them first before Raynor did, she still managed to not even secure one.

I'm not saying Kerrigan didn't invade any protoss planets, but that the bulk of her invasion seemed to be centered on the terran fringe worlds.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

To be fair, we don't know that Kerrigan didn't invade Protoss space, too. We have absolutely no perspective of her incursions into non-Terran regions.

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"Clearly, if the protoss were so bored that they had a fake battle with Raynor on Haven that barely even concerned them, then they weren't hard-pressed by Kerrigan at all."

Selendis (leader of the protoss military) was bored during Wings of Liberty. That's the impression I got for why this unnecessary battle on Haven was even taking place. Shakuras and Aiur are seriously the #1 target I personally would have considered if I was looking for any xel'naga artifacts whatsoever. The conclave literally had treasure chests of the things that they kept away from everyone.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

She did, however, invade two of the planets you found Artifacts on, one of which was inhabited by Protoss. You also have to consider that she was aware Duran was working for the Dominion and suspected his mass production of the Hybrids, so focusing on comparatively weak terran worlds first kind of makes sense.

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Well that's my point. Given that pretty much all of the artifacts but one were in the possession of Tal'Darim, why pursue the attack on the fringe worlds? Narud certainly isn't giving her any useful information. She failed to gain access to the Moebius data cores. She failed to find Narud's hybrid lab, so she's not really getting anything else from attacking the terran planets. Why persist with the invasion?

If one was inclined to think the Zerg invasion was centred mostly against the Terrans, maybe she was trying to get to Narud? If she can find him and coerce the location of those artifacts from him, then it'd be easier for her to go and collect them later.

Doesn't explain why she would then spread her forces so thin and all over the sector though. Maybe she was both trying to find Narud in Terran space whilst also hedging her bets by sending forces all over the sector to cover all instances not knowing that she'd be making herself vulnerable for a counter attack. This could kinda make sense given Kerrigan's arrogance? That's all I got unfortunately.

Actually, that's my best guess - she wasn't specifically hunting the artifacts because she had no idea where they are, she was hunting the Moebius Foundation so she could find out. I guess.

But to be honest, I have no idea what she was doing. I'm not entirely certain why she even wanted the artifact and her characterisation in the Prophecy arc is completely inscrutable to me. Heart of the Swarm gave me zero illumination in that regard.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

But to be honest, I have no idea what she was doing. I'm not entirely certain why she even wanted the artifact and her characterisation in the Prophecy arc is completely inscrutable to me. Heart of the Swarm gave me zero illumination in that regard.

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Yeah, that's a really good point. I don't remember if there is anything definitive about Kerrigan actually starting the invasion because she was looking for the artifact. As to the "why", I assume it's because it's so that no-one else could potentially use it against her.

Oh and don't worry, I think the writers are just as adrift in the sea of confusion as we are.

WAIT I'VE FIGURED IT OUT!

It's going to take a lot of meandering, so try to follow along.

I've mentioned before how the Prophecy arc obviously went through a complete revision - and was never actually finished - because as it stands now, its timeline goes

1- Zeratul and Kerrigan discuss a Prophecy and its repercussions.
2- Zeratul finds an ancient undeciphered Xel'Naga prophecy which must not fall into Kerrigan's hands (and Karass gives his life to ensure this).
3- Zeratul gets the prophecy deciphered, goes to Aiur and learns another prophecy from the visions of the Overmind.

There are three distinct prophecies there. The prophecy Zeratul discovers on Ulaan, which eventually leads him to the final prophecy from the mind of the Overmind itself. But what about that first prophecy, the one Zeratul and Kerrigan discuss in the cinematic and during the first mission? Obviously it can't be the second prophecy, because Zeratul hasn't collected it yet, nor has he had it deciphered by the Preservers, and we are explicitly told that Kerrigan must not get her hands on it. And it can't be the third prophecy, because nobody gets that one until the end of the arc.

Except, I think it is the Overmind's vision they're discussing. It clearly deals with the oblivion of both Zeratul and Kerrigan and probably the entire galaxy, and it specifically makes mention of "the final agonising moments of [the Protoss] species". the Prophecy cinematic was completed very early in the development of StarCraft II, I think it even predates the splitting of the campaign into three games. And it's obviously supposed to come directly before Zeratul's appearance on the Hyperion - Zeratul is still wounded from his fight with Kerrigan in that scene, and the scenes were shown as such when they were revealed all those years ago. The cinematic likely couldn't be changed to fit with the version of the story they ended up going with, and they just had to make do with it.

What this means is that for whatever reason that has been lost to subsequent rewrites, both Kerrigan and Zeratul knew of the Overmind's vision during that encounter. Now, imagine that the vision had a more explicit reference to the Terrans being responsible for Kerrigan's death than the throwaway line we got in the final version. That's why Kerrigan assaulted Terran space - it was a preemptive strike to try to save herself.

^ Wait, is this theory ditching the whole "Kerrigan was looking for artifacts" motivation altogether?

The "hedging bets" theory makes more sense. If Kerrigan's intent was to wipe out all the Terrans before they could do the same to her, the Zerg forces wouldn't have been spread out and that she'd brook no chance of counter attack (Char would've been more heavily defended than what is shown in WoL due to her paranoia of being killed). If the Terrans were such an important threat to be neutralised, wouldn't all her Zerg forces be concentrated exclusively on the Terrans?

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

If Kerrigan's intent was to wipe out all the Terrans before they could do the same to her, the Zerg forces wouldn't have been spread out and that she'd brook no chance of counter attack

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What makes you say that? She has a massive numbers advantage and surprise on her side. It seems to me that the best strategy is to simultaneously strike down as many worlds as she could.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

What makes you say that? She has a massive numbers advantage and surprise on her side. It seems to me that the best strategy is to simultaneously strike down as many worlds as she could.

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It's questionable whether her numbers meant for anything if they were spread thin across the entire sector as other's seem to be suggesting. That's why I asked whether you had ditched Kerrigan's motivation for breaking her 4 year silence was "to get artifacts" for your theory of "total Terran annihilation because she was scared of them".

I'd hardly call her eventual attack that much of a surprise either when everyone would have been anticipating it ever since BW ended (or was 4 years enough time for the Terrans to get lazy and stop worrying about the Zerg, too? Who knows.).

The idea of simultaneous strikes also seems to be at odds with Kerrigan's supposed worry of being defeated by Terrans because it indicates over-confidence/fearlessness on Kerrigan's part against Terrans. It's a bit incongruous, especially when her "tactics" made Char open to counter-attack and she made no attemps to hide herself. It has this "trying to sneak up on a snake, knowing it could potentially kill you, and stomp on its head before it can bite you" logic to it...

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

It's questionable whether her numbers meant for anything if they were spread thin across the entire sector as other's seem to be suggesting. That's why I asked whether you had ditched Kerrigan's motivation for breaking her 4 year silence was "to get artifacts" for your theory of "total Terran annihilation because she was scared of them".

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Well, there were Terrans on all those worlds, so the Terrans would be stretched thin as well. There are more Zerg than Terrans, if both are divided among an equal number of worlds, the Zerg will still have more numbers than Terrans. Besides, I'm sure Kerrigan wasn't afraid of the Dominion as a military threat. It probably was the artefacts, hence the Moebius hunt.

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

I'd hardly call her eventual attack that much of a surprise either when everyone would have been anticipating it ever since BW ended

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Yeah, they knew the Zerg would come back eventually. But when is that going to be? A day? A month? A year? Ten, a hundred? You can't just spend the rest of your existence crouching in ambush. Some people have Empires to rebuild.

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

The idea of simultaneous strikes also seems to be at odds with Kerrigan's supposed worry of being defeated by Terrans because it indicates over-confidence/fearlessness on Kerrigan's part against Terrans. It's a bit incongruous, especially when her "tactics" made Char open to counter-attack and she made no attemps to hide herself. It has this "trying to sneak up on a snake, knowing it could potentially kill you, and stomp on its head before it can bite you" logic to it...

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Yeah, but what's the alternative? Hide on Char and gather all your minions around you so you can spend the rest of your existence in a prison of your own making, where you will only get attacked at a time and manner of your enemy's choosing, when they are most ready for you? There are no perfect plans.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Well, there were Terrans on all those worlds, so the Terrans would be stretched thin as well. There are more Zerg than Terrans, if both are divided among an equal number of worlds, the Zerg will still have more numbers than Terrans.

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That wasn't the point I was trying to make (see next response).... Still, it's kinda pointless attacking numerous Terran worlds that aren't really a threat to her. She's diverting forces that could 've been used more effectively and tactically elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Besides, I'm sure Kerrigan wasn't afraid of the Dominion as a military threat. It probably was the artefacts, hence the Moebius hunt.

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Ok, that finally makes sense now. You didn't mention anything about artifacts in your big theory so I was under the impression that you thought that Kerrigan was only coming out to attack the Terrans for the sake of a forecast that the Terrans would kill her later. It initially sounded like the justification for the Xindi's actions in Enterprise. It was lame and full of suck then, too.

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Yeah, they knew the Zerg would come back eventually. But when is that going to be? A day? A month? A year? Ten, a hundred? You can't just spend the rest of your existence crouching in ambush. Some people have Empires to rebuild.

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Convenient that she didn't just continue her rampage right from the end of BW and finish them off. If she was so overly paranoid and fearful of them, she could've wiped them out then. Would've been easier, too.

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Yeah, but what's the alternative? Hide on Char and gather all your minions around you so you can spend the rest of your existence in a prison of your own making, where you will only get attacked at a time and manner of your enemy's choosing, when they are most ready for you? There are no perfect plans.

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No. It's just plain simple tactical thinking. You don't expend forces on useless targets or make yourself vulnerable to attack especially if you fear the enemy (and their supposed potential kill you) you are fighting.

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

That wasn't the point I was trying to make (see next response).... Still, it's kinda pointless attacking numerous Terran worlds that aren't really a threat to her. She's diverting forces that could 've been used more effectively and tactically elsewhere.

Ok, that finally makes sense now. You didn't mention anything about artifacts in your big theory so I was under the impression that you thought that Kerrigan was only coming out to attack the Terrans for the sake of a forecast that the Terrans would kill her later. It initially sounded like the justification for the Xindi's actions in Enterprise. It was lame and full of suck then, too.

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Oh, my apologies. I should have been clearer. Yes, the Terrans are certainly not a direct military threat to the Swarm in the post-Brood War era (neither are the Protoss, actually), so presumably she had an idea that the Terrans would stumble upon some secret weapon. As such, there's no specific reason to go for the bulk of the Terran forces, since that could be a drawn out conflict, when you can wipe out as many potential Terran worlds as possible. Ultimately, since the threat came from Raynor, focusing on the Dominion fleet would have left her more vulnerable anyway.

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

Convenient that she didn't just continue her rampage right from the end of BW and finish them off. If she was so overly paranoid and fearful of them, she could've wiped them out then. Would've been easier, too.

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Well, we're discussing stuff that was written out of StarCraft II, so I couldn't begin to guess when, where or how Kerrigan learned of the Overmind's vision. I'm just guessing that this was the original motivation, then it was taken out and wasn't replaced with anything, which would explain the confusing mess we were left with. Kerrigan retreating to Char is not an invention of StarCraft II though, that's from Brood War.

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No. It's just plain simple tactical thinking. You don't expend forces on useless targets or make yourself vulnerable to attack especially if you fear the enemy (and their supposed potential kill you) you are fighting.

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Except they're not useless targets. It's killing the enemy she fears. That's the whole objective.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

As such, there's no specific reason to go for the bulk of the Terran forces, since that could be a drawn out conflict, when you can wipe out as many potential Terran worlds as possible.

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It's still a little bit fuzzy on the logic there. She fears the Terrans will one-up her, with the most immediate threat being their current military forces and then goes about dividing her forces to attack all Terran worlds, most of which are pointless targets that pose no threat to her forces whatsoever (like Agria) and diluting/weakening her potential at attacking major worlds (like Korhal) in the process, whilst all at the risk of inciting the most capable aspects of the Terran military (which she apparently fears) into finally taking action against her and potentially self-fulfilling the prophecy of her own death at Terran hands. That makes her either genre blind, stupid or both. Either way, still doesn't make for a worthy villain does it?

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Ultimately, since the threat came from Raynor, focusing on the Dominion fleet would have left her more vulnerable anyway.

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Correction: the actual threat came from Valerian and his half of the Dominion fleet. Without it, Raynor wouldn't have got anywhere near Kerrigan nor had the tools to harm her. Makes you wonder what would've happened had she gone straight straight for the Dominion fleet first. Oh wait, that happened in HotS! And she won! Shocking how things turn out, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Well, we're discussing stuff that was written out of StarCraft II, so I couldn't begin to guess when, where or how Kerrigan learned of the Overmind's vision. I'm just guessing that this was the original motivation, then it was taken out and wasn't replaced with anything, which would explain the confusing mess we were left with.

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Maybe in the moment the Overmind died, it psionically transmitted this prophecy to her. Hell, she could've just gone straight back to Aiur to touch the Overmind's tendrils (apparently they give good visions and prophecy) at anytime given that it was already overrun with Zerg. Unfortunately, it's still a bit of a mess if we go down this route, too.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Except they're not useless targets. It's killing the enemy she fears. That's the whole objective.

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Yes, but quite irrational. It's like being told that you will be killed by a snake bite one day and then you go off hunting down every snake in the whole world with everything and every resource/aid at your disposal, up to and including putting yourself at risk by taking part in killing snakes personally.

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Originally Posted by Turalyon

It's still a little bit fuzzy on the logic there. She fears the Terrans will one-up her, with the most immediate threat being their current military forces and then goes about dividing her forces to attack all Terran worlds, most of which are pointless targets that pose no threat to her forces whatsoever (like Agria) and diluting/weakening her potential at attacking major worlds (like Korhal) in the process, whilst all at the risk of inciting the most capable aspects of the Terran military (which she apparently fears) into finally taking action against her and potentially self-fulfilling the prophecy of her own death at Terran hands. That makes her either genre blind, stupid or both. Either way, still doesn't make for a worthy villain does it?

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Actually, you're committing a typical prophecy related fallacy, focusing on the most obvious possible interpretation to the detriment of all others. But unless the prophecy specifically says that the Queen of Blades will be destroyed by the might of the Terran Dominion's military, that's unwise, and narratively practically always wrong. So it would be most accurate to say that your problem with her is that she was too genre-savvy and not narrow-minded enough. Besides, your position doesn't really make any sense. The Dominion military was not a threat to the Swarm, as you pointed out below. So you're basically saying that it was stupid of her to spread out her forces to eliminate multiple not-a-threats, when instead she should have focused all her resources on eliminating a single not-a-threat.

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Correction: the actual threat came from Valerian and his half of the Dominion fleet. Without it, Raynor wouldn't have got anywhere near Kerrigan nor had the tools to harm her. Makes you wonder what would've happened had she gone straight straight for the Dominion fleet first. Oh wait, that happened in HotS! And she won! Shocking how things turn out, isn't it?

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That's an interesting interpretation, given that Raynor was the one who had the artefact, he was the one Valerian came to for help executing his plan and was the one who basically rescued the Dominion armada during the invasion of Char. Now, let's say that Kerrigan had sent her Swarm to wipe out the Dominion. How hard do you think it would have been for Raynor to convince one of the other powers - the Protectorate or Combine or, hell, even the Protoss - to take down Kerrigan given that he had the weapon to do so, that Char was left vulnerable by the invasion, and that Kerrigan was clearly intent on eradicating the other species? Evidently, your plan does not improve her chances of survival.

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Yes, but quite irrational. It's like being told that you will be killed by a snake bite one day and then you go off hunting down every snake in the whole world with everything and every resource/aid at your disposal, up to and including putting yourself at risk by taking part in killing snakes personally.

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I think the odds of the Swarm wiping out all of humanity are far better than the odds of one guy wiping out all of snakedom, but even setting that aside, you put on some armoured boots and thick pants and you'll be far better equipped to survive snakes than when you're sleeping or just walking about doing your business.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

Actually, you're committing a typical prophecy related fallacy, focusing on the most obvious possible interpretation to the detriment of all others. But unless the prophecy specifically says that the Queen of Blades will be destroyed by the might of the Terran Dominion's military, that's unwise, and narratively practically always wrong. So it would be most accurate to say that your problem with her is that she was too genre-savvy and not narrow-minded enough. Besides, your position doesn't really make any sense. The Dominion military was not a threat to the Swarm, as you pointed out below. So you're basically saying that it was stupid of her to spread out her forces to eliminate multiple not-a-threats, when instead she should have focused all her resources on eliminating a single not-a-threat.

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I actually don't have a position as of yet. My confusion at the fuzzy logic being employed to explain her actions in your interpretation is making me spitball alternative explanations. I'm struggling to understand the motivation behind Kerrigan's choice of action here and how it's supposed to be interpreted by the audience. The prophecy is where all the problems begin, I think. We don't know how much stock we, as the audience, are supposed to take into it and how to expect Kerrigan reacts to it either.

If the audience are to expect that the Terrans are really a non-threat whether she attacks them head on or not, you're correct that it doesn't really matter how she approaches the attack. However, Kerrigan can't know this because she is coloured by the prophecy that tells her the Terrans will end her. What makes her think that attacking relatively minor, potential threats (as she perceives them) in the numerous fringe colonies is better than attacking the more immediate, relatively major threat (as she would perceive them) in the core worlds and/or main Dominion fleet? How are we, the audience supposed to know this?

The audience and Kerrigan don't know the apparent time frame as to when this prophecy is supposed to be fulfilled (or not?) either so there are also questions about the timing of her attack. Also, given the fatalism that Kerrigan displays in WoL, the interpretation that she chose to attack the Terrans at all is to actually fulfill the prophecy (ie: her dying) is also a reasonable explanation that can't be discounted.

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Originally Posted by FanaticTemplar

That's an interesting interpretation, given that Raynor was the one who had the artefact, he was the one Valerian came to for help executing his plan and was the one who basically rescued the Dominion armada during the invasion of Char. Now, let's say that Kerrigan had sent her Swarm to wipe out the Dominion. How hard do you think it would have been for Raynor to convince one of the other powers - the Protectorate or Combine or, hell, even the Protoss - to take down Kerrigan given that he had the weapon to do so, that Char was left vulnerable by the invasion, and that Kerrigan was clearly intent on eradicating the other species? Evidently, your plan does not improve her chances of survival.

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Raynor only had the artifact at all due to information from Valerian (fed down through Tychus somehow, even though he was working for Mengsk and that Mengsk was probably not aware of the artifacts power until later... or something. One has to start making assumptions given the dearth of information). Not to mention that Valerian (or rather Narud who was perhaps manipulating him) was the only person who knew how to weaponise the artifact against Kerrigan. I don't know why Valerian chose Raynor at all given that he was losing his fight against Mengsk and out-of-sorts in more ways than one when he found him through Tychus. Valerian also supposedly had a tactical genius in Warfield (disregarding the fact that he is actually incompetent as WoL eventually shows us), so he could have conceivably got the artifacts himself. This is disregarding the fact that Narud could've done without Valerian altogether because the Tal'darim were Narud's puppets all along and had immediate access to the artifacts already...

The Protectorate or Combine angle is speculative given that their strength is implied to be less than the Dominion/Confederacy even at the best of times. Given the information about the artifacts belongs only to Valerian, Raynor wouldn't have any point recruiting them because he'd have no weapon to use.

As to Kerrigan herself, I'm surprised she wasn't located where the bulk of her forces were and/or constantly on the move if she wanted to complete the destruction of the Terrans and avoid being killed by them. At this point, there's nothing that can really improve her chances of survival, so why not go out whilst being proactive? That said, I don't know what Kerrigan is thinking or how I'm supposed to understand it anyway so it's kinda moot anyway.

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I think the odds of the Swarm wiping out all of humanity are far better than the odds of one guy wiping out all of snakedom, but even setting that aside, you put on some armoured boots and thick pants and you'll be far better equipped to survive snakes than when you're sleeping or just walking about doing your business.

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Wasn't really going for the actual possibility of it being realised one way or another here but rather to highlight the absurdity of rationalising such action.

Well, as I said I'm reaching into some seriously speculative areas here. Even if my theory is correct, it was wiped out during rewrites before we got to our current version of the product. I don't know how the audience was supposed to interpret a product I never got to see, I'm just trying to piece together the original idea for something that can only be inducted through observing some vestigial remains of the earlier draft.

Because in the released version, as Gradius noted, there's very little reason for Kerrigan's invasion of the Koprulu Sector.

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Because in the released version, as Gradius noted, there's very little reason for Kerrigan's invasion of the Koprulu Sector.

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Gradius' makes the assumption that Kerrigan is after the artifacts given the obtuse setup of WoL. He is questioning why Kerrigan is invading Terran space predominantly (or so it seems) for said artifacts.

We actually already know why Kerrigan wants to invade the Terran sector generally speaking since BW - she's just a power-hungry and psychotic bitch.

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Gradius' makes the assumption that Kerrigan is after the artifacts given the obtuse setup of WoL. He is questioning why Kerrigan is invading Terran space predominantly (or so it seems) for said artifacts.

We actually already know why Kerrigan wants to invade the Terran sector generally speaking since BW - she's just a power-hungry and psychotic bitch.

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Ah, but Brood War itself tells us she decided to leave the Sector alone for a time, so it still requires a reason: why come back now?

She directly tells us she wants the artifacts.

"I know what the artifacts do. And they will be mine!"

The ending of BW already established that the terrans are no threat to her. The artifacts & Narud on the other hand...

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Ah, but Brood War itself tells us she decided to leave the Sector alone for a time, so it still requires a reason: why come back now?

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Isn't that obvious? That "alone time", which was arbitrarily determined by Kerrigan to begin with, is now "over" (once again determined arbitrarily in length by Kerrigan). As Raynor said, "She's come to finish the job".

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She directly tells us she wants the artifacts.

"I know what the artifacts do. And they will be mine!"

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My bad. It's hard to remember specific things in WoL when you can't help but want to forget it all at the same time. :D

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Isn't that obvious? That "alone time", which was arbitrarily determined by Kerrigan to begin with, is now "over" (once again determined arbitrarily in length by Kerrigan). As Raynor said, "She's come to finish the job".

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Except there was also this bit:

And alone, floating on a dark platform above the burnt-out planet of Char, Sarah Kerrigan, the Queen of Blades, sat and lorded over the ravenous Swarms. Unable to shake the feeling that a great threat loomed just over the horizon, Kerrigan could only stare off into the vastness of space where she beheld a great void. Or perhaps a reflection of a hollow victory and of the trials yet to come...

^ What about it?

It wasn't as if this was some great epiphany on Kerrigan's part. It was just a "feeling", a comment on her lost (lingering?) humanity. To stretch this metaphor to snapping point, she had won the right to brood (as in thinking deeply about troubled thoughts). Even then, Kerrigan is the sort of character who would just ignore epiphanies anyway...

I mean the part about the looming threat.

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I mean the part about the looming threat.

Yes? So? What I said about it being just a "feeling" still applies there.

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I mean the part about the looming threat.

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I find this the perfect opportunity to ask

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I mean the part about the looming threat.

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I mean the part about the looming threat.

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I find this the perfect opportunity to ask

WTF WITH THE UPDATED THING THOUGH?

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Yes? So? What I said about it being just a "feeling" still applies there.

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I think Kerrigan's comment about the galaxy burning and facing oblivion implies she doesn't think it's just a feeling anymore :P.

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I find this the perfect opportunity to ask

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I find this the perfect opportunity to ask

WTF WITH THE UPDATED THING THOUGH?

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I think Kerrigan's comment about the galaxy burning and facing oblivion implies she doesn't think it's just a feeling anymore :P.

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Well hopefully LotV will shed some more light on the subject. We anticipated Kerrigan regaining her memories as the Queen of Blades, without luck. She obviously discovered some things on her own independently of Zeratul. I'd also like some elaboration on these in LotV:

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"Do you hear them, Zeratul? Whispering from the stars... the galaxy will burn with their coming."

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"Amon whispered of this from the stars. He told you of his return. He told you of ruin. Extinction. The end of all things."


In what way, I wonder, has Amon been making contact? Are these messages simply echoes through the Void? Are we going to get a Lovecraftian twist where -- "In his House of R'lyeh -- er, the Void -- dead Amon waits dreaming", and particularly powerful psychics are picking these up?


Or, as I've been wondering lately, is Amon a particularly powerful Xel'Naga who has been corrupted by the Voice in the Darkness? With one aspect restored -- the ethereal black ink splot unleashed by the Moebius foundation -- it now seeks to reincarnate his physical vessel, the Xel'Naga Amon, that held both Perfection of Form and Essence?

(I kind of hope the Voice in the Darkness is the essence of a previously failed attempt at the Xel'Naga Cycle, that has since infected Amon, doing its utmost to undo all that successive generation of 'Naga have accomplished.)

I doubt we'll get much more Kerrigan in LotV seeing that we didn't really get much on Raynor in HotS.

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Originally Posted by Visions of Khas

Kerrigan
"Do you hear them, Zeratul? Whispering from the stars... the galaxy will burn with their coming."

Narud
"Amon whispered of this from the stars. He told you of his return. He told you of ruin. Extinction. The end of all things."

In what way, I wonder, has Amon been making contact? Are these messages simply echoes through the Void?

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Given that Xel'Naga are now supposedly godlike beings, one could expect that these "whispers" are just his psionic emissions drifting out from wherever he is. That or it's all just purple prose.