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Actually, has anyone considered the possibility that they remodeled the Swarm Guardian/Brood Lord because of the Infestor? As I'm sure everyone remembers, the Infestor got an art update where it looks more centipede-esque. Perhaps Blizzard felt this new version, while well suited for the Infestor, looked too much like the Swarm Guardian' s old model?
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/st...SC2_Cncpt2.jpg
I have to admit, the model is not perfect, but it has potential, I would like to see it in about 2 months when it has gone through a few passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid
As I first saw that image, all I could say was 'why Brood Lord?'. Honestly, I really like the model; it is an updated Swarm Guardian model, sans the tail, or the name. That screenshot, in my opinion, is admitedly low-quality (there's a bit of blur to it), so perhaps some proper action shots would be better.
All in all, I love the model; it looks exactly like the Guardian from SCI, so I'm hoping it get's a rename, and perhaps a few more passes through the art team.
Anyone else think it's a bit odd that the Brood Lord model picture casts a Mutalisk's (or at least a unit or doodad that's not in the shape of Brood Lord) shadow?
I smell photoshop imprints :D
Its not his shadow, it is mutalisks shadow, they are probably behind him....Also im ok with model, i just cant stand the name Brood Lord....They could use Guardian, Swarm Guradian, Brood Guardian, but Brood Lord is awful name for units that is same as Guardian (Same purpose, almost same look...)Quote:
Originally Posted by TychusFindlay
I guess it's possible but it looks kind of like a photoshopped drone to me.
Can I get a link or a scan of the actual article itself? I've only ever seen paraphrasing and translation; never the actual article.
very large forum...very large broodlord...
Please expand a bit on this forum
Ah, very good point! There would be a redundancy in the tails.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. peasant
Here's a comparison between the Guardian and the Brood Lord. Brood Lord seems simpler by comparison, but close overall.
http://www.zanmgt.com/aaron/guardian.jpg
Actually, the thing the Brood Lord most closely resembles is a Drone.
http://images.gamestar.de/images/gam...41/336x252.jpghttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st..._SC2_Rend2.jpg
Looks like a fat Scourge to me.
http://game.scuniverse.net/images/default/zerg/sco.png
You are crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid
it looks like a drone/guardian... just ugly
Scourges were so cute and cuddly... this just is not.
+1 flying drone..Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. peasant
it actually looks like an old queen, cutted in half, gave us the tail and hitted it with a hamer to flaten it.
although it might be exciting to see this unit evolve from a drone rather than from a larvae
So it seems that this Blood Lord is some king of a "tank" unit.... I think ultralisk would be better...and does blood lord have 2 heads/mouths or whatever?
What are you talking about :) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanker
If the Drone were Luke Skywalker, the Brood Lord would be Darth Vader :P
Minus the extended tail, the Swarm Guardians were pretty close to the original too. I dunno what it is, but I'm just not too keen on the Brood Lord's design...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1..._GROUP_SC1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1..._Group_SC2.jpg
X :cool:
me too! so far it loks...ok. but not awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dauntless
i guess the model will be updated as soon as itīs worth it. they are probably testing the unit right now and check wether it makes sense the create a more detailed/better model because the unit actually fits into the game or come up with an completly new unit/idea.
Personally, I like the look of it. It's intimidating. Not original, but it is intimidating. It looks very Zerg.
I preferred the undulating caterpillar model, but truthfully it didn't appear very intimidating.
To me it's most like a fleshed out version of the SC Guardian, but then that's just me. I'm still wondering why they changed the name though, are they going to introduce a new ability or two, or is it just a model/name revamp?
They probably changed the name because, "Guardian," implies defense. The Guardian (and by extension the Swarm Guardian) never really played much of a defensive role. Neither did the Queen, and they changed the unit to fit that. They changed the Guardian to Brood Lord to imply its more offense-oriented role.
It doesn't look that good at all....
Agreed, it seems a bit, well, plain really, though I'll reserve judging properly till I've seen it in motion.
Huh
Well, alright then, what do you guys think it should look like?
Do you still want the whole, "Basically a Guardian that spawns Broodlings when it attacks?"
Or are you guys wanting something different?
Did you prefer one of the two older models?
Personally I'd be okay with the old Swarm Guardian with one or two of the tail sections knocked off. As for the abilities, I definitely want it to spawn units, but not as the Swarm Guardian did, I'd prefer him to carry units like the Reaver did, and the units could be either Scourgettes or Broodlings (two per build).
So an air-to-ground Reaver?
Hmm, that's definitely an interesting idea...
Actually, more like an AtA Reaver with Broodling (except it doesn't kill the host). I wouldn't give it any base attack either.
We have Corruptor for that, they could change that units, but personally i like the things are now, Corruptors and Guardians...(Sheeeehs....everything is ok except the nae Brood Lord, it just plain Stupid, Brood Guardian is awsome for me ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by MattII
If that's really the brood lord I'm pretty disappointed, if that's a swarm guardian...well it looks ok I guess. I also thought it looks like a big flying drone.
like I said in a difrent forum.
the uglyest looking unit I have seen in a RTS game so far
you got to be kidding!
the ugliest unit ever is the infestor!
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by schnubor
It's obviously an unfinished model that they haven't put much work into yet. The only reason I could think of that would explain this is the above quote.
Frankly, I don't see what the problem with the name is. It sounds fine. Not the most original thing in the world, but neither is the unit.
But then again, how much more original can we get with a Zerg air-to-ground unit?
I think the model looks awesome. Again, obviously not original, but I think it looks good. I prefer the very first Swarm Guardian model, but this one is way more intimidating, which I think is a look all Zerg should possess. They've definitely been updating the units to appear much more intimidating lately.
I'm looking forward to the redesigned infestor, though. There was a pretty cool concept from Samwise with a new version.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blade
The Swarm Guardian was replaced by the Brood Lord, so I think that should answer your question. Cue the disappointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoFool
X :cool:
I think he know that, but what actually he meant is that Brood Lord needed to be new unit, so if it looks really similar to the Guardian, then there is no point in giving it new name....And i agree with him...Quote:
Originally Posted by XSOLDIER
Haha yea that's why I have the word "if" from my previous post +)
Hmm, since people were so largely unhappy with the Brood Lord model (and name), I was thinking about doing something different for it (and somebody mentioned making it in to a flying Reaver):
What if the model were changed to a giant mass of forward-facing tentacles, and each "large" tentacle was essentially a missile purchased with minerals in the same way Scarabs were purchased for the Reaver. These tentacles then fire at a chosen ground target, do fairly substantial damage (100? Subject to balance) and then burst in to multiple Broodlings (8ish? Subject to balance).
It's definitely different, it still maintains the air-to-ground siege function, the model would be different (and hopefully frightening and intimidating), and the cost causes a need for you to make tactical choices. Also, it fits in with the whole, "For the Swarm," suicidal bit the Zerg go for.
I thought of calling it the Brood Fiend? /shrug