Unit Pictures

Yeah, we'll see how the textures for the roach go. And yeah VoK, that image will be absolutely vital for the Spear. I won't be doing it at the level of detail of the Leviathan, I'll probably have an inset in the next version at a scale of like 1px = 10m for the Spear and Leviathan and then have the rest of the capital ship chart at 1px=1m, and then the whole thing will be a lot neater and more manageable than the HotS version.

I also finished the Mutalisk 3D model for my animation, so now we can look at how the size I ended up going with for my chart stacks up with the terran ships. It's smaller compared to the wraith than I initially imagined, but looking back at the Starcraft: Ghost trailer I think it's right. So, good, I won't have to change its size on the chart. It's probably still a bit bigger than the SC2 version, but mine has a smaller head, so it looks right for it to be a bit longer.

http://i.imgur.com/y1LxRs5.png

http://i.imgur.com/5KsPJPj.png

http://i.imgur.com/SfBWeNK.png

http://i.imgur.com/LzAbkie.png

http://i.imgur.com/itO9ueJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/3FXJLnP.png

(Sorry for super blurry SCG intro screenshots)

Disruptor got a purifier retexture to match cybros. The other protoss unit is now the adept.

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Disruptor got a purifier retexture to match cybros. The other protoss unit is now the adept.

http://i.imgur.com/SPXTsfO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IR1zImR.jpg

The Adept looks female. I'm glad there's more gender diversity going on with the Protoss. Anyone else thinking she's a follower of the late Twilight Messiah, Adun? ;) About time we get some Void/Khala-empowered units! Considering she looks awfully a lot like Artanis, I'm thinking that's the case.

.....The adept doesn't look female at all. Look at that waistline!

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.....The adept doesn't look female at all. Look at that waistline!

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So much for "Girl Power."

VOk's referring to the in-game version. I'm more concerned that he thinks Artanis looks female...:confused:

Hahaha, okay. Look at the Adept's outfit: the armor, the skirt, and the hovering ring are all reminiscent of Artanis' getup. Compare the Adept against Artanis's appearance in the Oblivion trailer.

For some reason I don't like it when they add female units to Starcraft. It feels forced.

For an enlightened and communal species, I'm surprised females are under-represented, though it is interesting that they're likely to be in a role of command or high regard -- such as Raszagal and Selendis. I'd expect them to match males in martial prowess and intelligence. It seems forced that there are so few females.

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For an enlightened and communal species, I'm surprised females are under-represented, though it is interesting that they're likely to be in a role of command or high regard -- such as Raszagal and Selendis. I'd expect them to match males in martial prowess and intelligence. It seems forced that there are so few females.

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Remember, what we see is mostly Protoss military. Their species breeds slowly so its actually not surprising to me they'd try to keep the females off the front lines. Most modern countries do the same because ultimately, wombs are too valuable. Although the fact the Protoss are so advanced they should have artificial wombs throws a bit of a wrench in that theory. We can't really know without being 100% certain about Protoss reproduction, although they are a very spiritual people so they may feel that "test tube babies" aren't real Protoss.

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For some reason I don't like it when they add female units to Starcraft. It feels forced.

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For some reason, I don't like it when all units of the same type seem to be of the same gender and personality. It feels forced. :p

I feel most women aren't suited for military situations. Maybe a few are, but there are psychological reasons why it doesn't work for most. For one thing, women are more likely to notice small, "quality of life" things, as I call it. That is, stuff like loud neighbors, the husband doesn't lock the back door, not having enough money to buy a certain thing, having an irritable coworker, etc. While men are generally more able to ignore little things for the bigger picture (even if the "bigger picture" some men have in mind is prioritizing video games), women prefer to have a life with the smaller details in order. That is, women want a specific kind of life (internal contentment), whereas men are more goal-driven (external desire). This is probably a result of the halves of women's mind having better connections. It's also why women appear to nag -- they care about smaller details a man possibly won't prioritize, or be much worried about.

Also, it's been proven that when men see two injured comrades, male and female, they'll generally go after the hurt woman, even if she has little to no chance of living and the man will live if he's removed immediately.

In any case, given that men are physically stronger and war is generally a contest of physical might, it's logical for armies to be primarily male. It's also really insulting that women are allowed into the army with lower standards than male candidates must surpass. I got a really high score on the ASVAB (like a 97), but know for a fact I didn't really deserve it -- the scoring system was really weird. Quite frankly, I'd rather be judged on my honest abilities rather than encouraged into the military simply because it's "fashionable" or "politically correct."

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I feel most women aren't suited for military situations.

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The IDF would beg to differ....

Besides, all of what you said is a generalisation for human females. There is no way we can be sure if it can be applicable to an alien species like the Protoss. Sure, they are ostensibly "human" because they're a fictional creation by humans (and of idealised humans?) but not every generalisation regarding humans has to be applicable to them. Even in the insect world, females are the predominant gender that do most of the "fighting" (ie: ants).

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In any case, given that men are physically stronger and war is generally a contest of physical might, it's logical for armies to be primarily male.

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A military organisation isn't all just about soldiering and armies. Even in games about fantastical fictional armies fighting like SC, there are units that don't strictly exist only for military reasons (ie: High Templar would have other uses beyond mere warfare in their society).

That's true, but some male/female psychological differences will still apply to some degree. I'm just saying.

I'm not really into in arguing feminism with Nissa in this thread, that's not what I come to this forum for... With regards to the Protoss it would have been entirely reasonable to design them with sexual dimorphism as unrelated to humanity's as, say, the anglerfish, where one giant female can have several tiny parasitic males attached to it. They could have used literally any system that occurs on Earth or made up literally anything new, but, of course, Blizzard and 90% of other sci-fi creators love making aliens not very alien, with the exact same humanoid body layout and gender differences. It would have been totally reasonable to not differentiate female Protoss from males by making them slimmer and smoother, but, well, that's what they did. Okay. If Selendis is shorter than Artanis in LotV, she'll be shorter in my chart. If she's not, then she won't be, that's it.

I like the adept's design much better than their WoL concept art, and more than previous 'protoss infantry with a ranged weapon' designs like the Vindicator. Don't know that I like the concept so much from a lore perspective. There are so many different ways Protoss can teleport now in SC2— they can be warped in through gateways/warpgates, Stalkers can blink, Zeratul can blink in a puff of smoke, mothership cores can recall, judicators in arbiters can recall, now warp prisms can digitize units from a distance, and now adepts can send out a copy of themselves and teleport to it. That sounds like something a high templar should be able to do too, right? At this point, basically every Protoss unit should have its own unique teleport ability. :P

Odin drawing is done, will try to scan or at least have a picture to show tonight. It's been a long time coming!

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That sounds like something a high templar should be able to do too, right?

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Well, if they combine Void and Khala energies, I can see it working.

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Odin drawing is done, will try to scan or at least have a picture to show tonight. It's been a long time coming!

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Hell, it's about time!

It's been a long while since I've posted in here...

I'll probably be more active as more LotV info comes out, but just dropping something by here:

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/wp-cont...14/11/ship.png

With Colossi being about ~55 meters tall, and the Spear of Adun has rooms that just let them walk around...she is one Big Bertha.

It is hilarious how each game has the protagonist getting a bigger ship.

Spear of Adun is also such a beauty.

Really there's nothing I'm more excited for than getting a good look at all the high-detail protoss units. Right off the bat in WoL we got plenty of good looks at what both terran and zerg look like up close, but the only Protoss was Zeratul. I'm definitely psyched.

Still haven't had a chance to scan the thor, been really busy. But I have been able to update a couple of the older drawings to be more accurate and overall better. These I did while in the dressing room at an a cappella competition, hah.

BW carrier with more sprite-accurate proportions. I should have known that the top hull plate wasn't meant to be as big and rounded as the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/EBz4BZ2.png

Improved shuttle. The old one was much too fat vertically, and there are a bunch of other little proportion changes. Probably no one will notice.
http://i.imgur.com/Pt5jGHz.png

Much improved Ghost. The new details are taken from my drawings of Nova and Kerrigan, but the new facemask looks much better, and the backpack definitely helps him look more balanced. Also the original drawing's arms were kind of weirdly long.
http://i.imgur.com/HclRMsO.png

Improved Goliath:
http://i.imgur.com/0maBNUj.png

New april fools joke has a Spear of Adun to scale with a Carrier!

http://s28.postimg.org/j2gbtu52l/gs_...000x2000_2.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/6p3hmxfe5/gs_...000x2000_2.jpg

Assuming a Carrier that is 1.2 kilometers in length.

http://s18.postimg.org/a5orwzgpl/Spe...rier_scale.jpg

Well, Robear, looks like you might be able to add the Spear of Adun to your ship list early.

Shadow Archon, where did you find that?!

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Shadow Archon, where did you find that?!

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Here.

Dude... I want this Zergling/Baneling plush...

So, it seems like the rest of the Protoss units were updated without a news page announcing it.

And unlike the rest of the units, the Carrier seems to have a non-gameplay model in the window.

http://media.blizzard.com/sc2/game/u...ce/carrier.jpg

There's not much that can be scaled here, but I guess there is a possibility that the SC2 Carrier will have a high-definition model in Legacy of the Void.

If those blue lights spread across the ship are windows though...

It makes it look like the SC2 Carrier is larger than a Battlecruiser.

And it looks like the Adept is very much a female, if its bust size is any indication.

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And it looks like the Adept is very much a female, if its bust size is any indication.

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Yes?

I always assumed the Adept was female.

What does this have to do with the Carrier?

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What does this have to do with the Carrier?

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I went to the LotV webpage first to see the new unit models, and found the Adept first. The carrier looks super-sexy, I just hope they do that much work on the rest of the models.

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I went to the LotV webpage first to see the new unit models, and found the Adept first. The carrier looks super-sexy, I just hope they do that much work on the rest of the models.

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Oh, I didn't know they updated that as well.

I was talking about the Carrier on the normal unit profile pages in the main site.

This is definitely all exciting. I'm actually a tiny bit weirded out by that carrier— a lot of SC2 protoss stuff is all about having these graceful curves, so I would have expected a high-res carrier to be more slim and curvy and elegant than its in-game counterpart. Instead it kind of looks chunkier. Maybe I was biased by Joel Durham's carrier for Final Metamorphosis!

http://www.joelrdurham.com/artwork/3d/carrier.jpg

But the details look great. Shadow Archon, I hope you're ready to recalculate the Spear of Adun if the carrier turns out to be twice as big as the Hyperion or something. :P

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This is definitely all exciting. I'm actually a tiny bit weirded out by that carrier— a lot of SC2 protoss stuff is all about having these graceful curves, so I would have expected a high-res carrier to be more slim and curvy and elegant than its in-game counterpart. Instead it kind of looks chunkier. Maybe I was biased by Joel Durham's carrier for Final Metamorphosis!

http://www.joelrdurham.com/artwork/3d/carrier.jpg

But the details look great. Shadow Archon, I hope you're ready to recalculate the Spear of Adun if the carrier turns out to be twice as big as the Hyperion or something. :P

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But the details look great. Shadow Archon, I hope you're ready to recalculate the Spear of Adun if the carrier turns out to be twice as big as the Hyperion or something. :P

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You know it.

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I'm actually a tiny bit weirded out by that carrier— a lot of SC2 protoss stuff is all about having these graceful curves, so I would have expected a high-res carrier to be more slim and curvy and elegant than its in-game counterpart. Instead it kind of looks chunkier.

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Probably just a bad angle. I'm sure she's much hotter in other pictures. Lol.

Another little unasked-for update: SC2 firebat added.

http://i.imgur.com/4ffq6Im.png

Firebat MK2, Yeah!

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Firebat MK2, Yeah!

Also did a new, more SC2-ish Medic drawing, because the old one was one of the roughest sketches. Sometimes people would ask for a closeup of the infantry units and I wouldn't want to post one because the Medic looked crappy up close. I might still include both versions in the big chart though, since I have 'em. Also cleaned up the marine.

http://i.imgur.com/BEsJiao.png

http://i.imgur.com/JfYfvFO.png

Think medic should be the same size.

Yeah, I might have made her a little bit too small, but I think she should end up a little shorter than the marine just because the SC2 marine design has a really huge helmet/visor that the head can rotate freely inside, with that backpack section covering the back of it.

http://i.imgur.com/jwM11Va.png

Whereas the SC2 Medic has a normal helmet that she's just wearing on her head, no giant backpack and a much smaller chestplate. Plus, the marine's shoulders come up as high as the top of his head, while the medic's seem smaller.

http://i.imgur.com/vhjp6Uk.jpg

That's where the difference came from, anyway. In SC1 it was absolutely the same armor!

Remember like 65 pages ago when one of you asked me to redo the Roach drawing in light of the (then) new HotS model? Only took me like 2 years. :P

http://i.imgur.com/Kzn6wCs.png

You may remember that for the HotS update, I drew a Brood-War style hydralisk and then clumsily edited the hydralisk I originally drew back in 2011 to try to match the SC2 model's proportions. It wasn't that great, but I reasoned it didn't matter since it would appear so small on the chart. But now that I'm cleaning up the infantry units...

http://i.imgur.com/iN25rvp.jpg

Obviously the overall accuracy is just a lot better now. I still stand by the original drawing (not the edited version above) as a good one, and it was one of the original 10. RIP.

http://i.imgur.com/HHYbwCZ.jpg

Mm, dat streamlined head, tho.

Old defiler drawing: some cool ideas (I still like all the different leg shapes), but not a great drawing. Bad face.

http://i.imgur.com/nJbQKWN.jpg

New defiler drawing: a lot of influence from the Mr. Jack design (especially those bristles on the two long arms, which are great), but still plenty of my own touches. I think my new face is my favorite defiler face design out there.

It was me that asked for a SC2 firebat, HotS Roach and better SC2-only Hydralisk and finally i got the update!
Also the Defiler that it has no more flying ass! DefilerRulez ! Such Swarm Much Plague !
You should post the Zealot artwork with Steroid blood that we talked about, i really want to see the sily comments it will generate