Protoss component of Raynor's Raiders?
What ever happened to the Protoss component of Raynor's Raiders? Are we supposed to assume the were all destroyed along with Fenix in "True Colors"? Before SC2 was announced, I always imagined the Protoss who served under Fenix would tag along with Raynor who has proven himself in the eyes of the Protoss and who was a friend and comrade-in-arms of Fenix. I guess I'm not getting that after all. :(
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They might have tagged along with Zeratul on his search for the hybrids.
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Maybe, or maybe they rejoined the Protoss on Shakuras, after all, wouldn't you want to help out your people in any way you could if they were really struggling?
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They probably wandered off (or were just flat out wiped out by Kerrigan) to rejoin their people wherever. (Shakuras, with Zeratul, Aiur, wherever.)
They may like Raynor, but I doubt many of them want to just live with him unless he has some sort of mission or plan specifically to fill their own goals and needs.
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Especially when you consider hanging with Raynor only offers short term prospects thanks to the Protoss' long life.
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Especially when you consider hanging with Raynor only offers short term prospects thanks to the Protoss' long life.
Tho, Raynor ability to get out of sure death situations can leave the protoss jaelous. ;)
But I of course like to hear that, at some point, you control protoss units in the terran campaign.
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I'd have to say those Protoss are all dead according to the True Colors mission. I might not name them as a "component" of Raynor's Raiders. They had their own ships, etc.
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I'd have to say those Protoss are all dead according to the True Colors mission. I might not name them as a "component" of Raynor's Raiders. They had their own ships, etc.
Agreed. They are at best loose affiliations of them. That said, I think it'd be kind of cool if they left some tech for Raynor to utilize. Imagine Battlecruisers getting permanent plasma shields or elite Ghosts getting psi blades. :D
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Don't be silly, Protoss don't take orders from humans, they have their own authorities. Surely the next in the command chain would assume Fenix's position and lead the group.
Most probably they left to join the other Protoss, prepare Fenix's funeral, or whatever the Protoss do.
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I guess humans and protoss will eventually join forces.
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I guess humans and protoss will eventually join forces.
But not all humans are gonna take lightly with allying the "reptilian" species.
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I hate not having had internet access, so here's a late post.
I think Raynor abandoned the protoss as he got drunk and bitter. Even in Resurrection IV, Artanis had to call Raynor to him. Furthermore, the protoss probably wanted to go to Shakuras to rebuild their people, and Shakuras is not a good place for terrans.
(In Twilight, we're told the only terrans the protoss had much contact with were Jim Raynor, Kerrigan, and Rosemary Dahl. The contact was so limited they assumed all female terrans were like Kerrigan. This didn't go over well when Dahl had to sweet talk them.)
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I don't think Raynor abandoned the Protoss. If anything, they probably abandoned him after Fenix and most, if not all, of his group were killed when Kerrigan turned on them in True Colors. Remember, the remaining Protoss from Aiur were working together to rebuild their civilization on Shakuras, they didn't have the freedom to be wandering around the sector with Terran fugitives, the Protoss have more important things to do than take part in Terran matters.
Now does this mean we won't be seeing any Protoss allies during Raynor's campaign? Of course not. I don't know for sure, but I'm positive that Raynor will be getting some Protoss help sometime during the campaign.
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(In Twilight, we're told the only terrans the protoss had much contact with were Jim Raynor, Kerrigan, and Rosemary Dahl. The contact was so limited they assumed all female terrans were like Kerrigan. This didn't go over well when Dahl had to sweet talk them.)
That's pretty silly, as the Protoss had studied the Terrans for a long time, and they know a lot about them. In fact, the Terrans were/are one of the races under the Dae'Uhl.
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I don't think Raynor abandoned the Protoss. If anything, they probably abandoned him after Fenix and most, if not all, of his group were killed when Kerrigan turned on them in True Colors. Remember, the remaining Protoss from Aiur were working together to rebuild their civilization on Shakuras, they didn't have the freedom to be wandering around the sector with Terran fugitives, the Protoss have more important things to do than take part in Terran matters.
Now does this mean we won't be seeing any Protoss allies during Raynor's campaign? Of course not. I don't know for sure, but I'm positive that Raynor will be getting some Protoss help sometime during the campaign.
At the same time, they are going to have to put Raynor against the protoss in some missions just for the sake of gameplay. I think in one of the missions they have released so far you have to kill protoss guarding some relics. I wonder how Raynor can keep up appearances with the protoss if he is battling other sects of them since the protoss need to stick together so badly now.
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I suspect that the Protoss 'mini-campaign' is in fact a component of the main campaign in which Zeratul approaches Raynor asking for help in acquiring artifacts or such.
You still play as Raynor, but you have Protoss units under your control for a time.
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At the same time, they are going to have to put Raynor against the protoss in some missions just for the sake of gameplay. I think in one of the missions they have released so far you have to kill protoss guarding some relics. I wonder how Raynor can keep up appearances with the protoss if he is battling other sects of them since the protoss need to stick together so badly now.
I believe that it is mentioned somewhere that there are fringe sects of Protoss who have lost contact with, or openly shunned the Shakuran Protoss, and as such Raynor's actions might not reach them.
Though, I must say, if it does, that would make for interesting plot in Legacy of the Void. The Protoss are now distrusting of all Terrans.
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That's pretty silly, as the Protoss had studied the Terrans for a long time
First-hand experience trumps information derived from some cold data crystal. Moreover, many of the Protoss how interacted with Terrans have probably died, passing on only their impressions of terrans to other protoss via the Link.
The Raiders never had a Protoss component. Much of the time they tagged along with Tassadar, then rallied behind Fenix in the defense of Aiur, then followed in their escapades across the galaxy until Kerrigan killed Fenix.
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I suspect that the Protoss 'mini-campaign' is in fact a component of the main campaign in which Zeratul approaches Raynor asking for help in acquiring artifacts or such.
You still play as Raynor, but you have Protoss units under your control for a time.
I'm guessing it's a prologue campaign that leads up to the Kerrigan vs. Zeratul fight. Or it's something that happens after Zeratul leaves Raynor. It doesn't look like Zeratul brought any troops with him anyway.
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At the same time, they are going to have to put Raynor against the protoss in some missions just for the sake of gameplay. I think in one of the missions they have released so far you have to kill protoss guarding some relics. I wonder how Raynor can keep up appearances with the protoss if he is battling other sects of them since the protoss need to stick together so badly now.
Well, we already seen that Raynor would take the opportunity to steal the relic while the Zerg are attacking the Protoss, and they're going to be attacked by giant stone Zealots, so they seem to had toned down the conflict between Raynor and the Protoss.
Maybe some faction of Protoss fanatics can attack Raynor for having a relic with him, or profanate a sacred Xel'Naga temple, etc. Or are attacking Terran worlds for some reason.
In the Terran part of SC vainilla, there are just a few fights against the Protoss.
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Remember that Fenix's group remained on the Aiur side of the Warp Gate so they could shut it down. Being stuck there, they really didn't have any other option than to tag along with Raynor. Of course, it was really like they were tagging along with eachother, since neither of them really had any idea of what to do. Fortunately fighting the UED gave them something to do for awhile, instead of going insane.
But yeah, Fenix's group was completely wiped out in True Colors.
There's no hope of any of them returning — not even our beloved Fenix :(
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Fenix's group wasn't stranded. If they were, then how the heck did they get to Korhal? If you have FTL travel, it hardly counts as "stranded".