Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
Having the Baneling Nest be a separate building also forces you to use a precious Drone, which means you need to use a precious Larva. In effect, it costs you more. Which is entirely appropriate for a Tier 1 building. You're making a hard choice with early-game Larva.
By the time you're wanting to make Lurkers or Brood Lords, Larva are easy(ier) to come by, so it isn't much of a cost. Better to just make it happen by itself.
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Perhaps, as a compromise, the Nest remains as it is in multiplayer (if it is indeed an issue of balance), but in the campaign, it mutates from the Pool.
Why? This isn't a lore issue; it's a gameplay issue.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
Nicol Bolas
Having the Baneling Nest be a separate building also forces you to use a precious Drone, which means you need to use a precious Larva. In effect, it costs you more. Which is entirely appropriate for a Tier 1 building. You're making a hard choice with early-game Larva.
Again doesnt seem nearly worth it. Your traiding what has become a charetoristic of zerg buildings for 1 larva? Yes larva as a resource matter but 1 larva at that stage is not a significant investment.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
The thing is, if you lose the spawning pool, then the baneling nest would be lost.
That's the obvious part.
But then to make another Baneling, you have to make another Spawning Pool, and then evolve it again. Losing one building makes you lose 2 techs, and you have to wait twice as long to remake the banelings.
Where as, right now, you lose one pool, you make one pool. You lose one nest, you make one nest. As Zerg, I think losing one tech is bad enough. Imagine losing two in one blow. *cringe*
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
Rizhall
The thing is, if you lose the spawning pool, then the baneling nest would be lost.
That's the obvious part.
But then to make another Baneling, you have to make another Spawning Pool, and then evolve it again. Losing one building makes you lose 2 techs, and you have to wait twice as long to remake the banelings.
Where as, right now, you lose one pool, you make one pool. You lose one nest, you make one nest. As Zerg, I think losing one tech is bad enough. Imagine losing two in one blow. *cringe*
Exactly.
As I said, yes, Banelings come from Zerglings. But even if you lose your Pool you may still have Zerglings already built, and you may want them to become Banelings. Having two separate buildings is an advantage, not a hindrance.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
Rizhall
The thing is, if you lose the spawning pool, then the baneling nest would be lost.
That's the obvious part.
But then to make another Baneling, you have to make another Spawning Pool, and then evolve it again. Losing one building makes you lose 2 techs, and you have to wait twice as long to remake the banelings.
Where as, right now, you lose one pool, you make one pool. You lose one nest, you make one nest. As Zerg, I think losing one tech is bad enough. Imagine losing two in one blow. *cringe*
You lose spawning pool your dead. You have what 5 zerglings you can turn into banelings and thats going to save you?
Plus upgrading the spawning pool --> Baneling Nest would presumably make it harder to kill.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
ArcherofAiur
You lose spawning pool your dead. You have what 5 zerglings you can turn into banelings and thats going to save you?
Plus upgrading the spawning pool --> Baneling Nest would presumably make it harder to kill.
Or you could just have two buildings with the same HP as one upgraded, which cost the same as one upgraded, which you can possibly protect better by separating their placement in your base.
AGAIN: having two buildings early game is an ADVANTAGE. You can recover faster.
And stop saying that "if you lose your Pool, you're dead." That's SC1. This is SC2, and while its likely true, we can't know for sure yet.
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Originally Posted by
DemolitionSquid
Or you could just have two buildings with the same HP as one upgraded, which cost the same as one upgraded, which you can possibly protect better by separating their placement in your base.
AGAIN: having two buildings early game is an ADVANTAGE. You can recover faster.
The chances of it actually being an advantage are microscopic. You are not making zerglings!
Like what are you going to do? Morph the only zerglings you have left into banelings? Great now you have zero fighting units LOL.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
ArcherofAiur
The chances of it actually being an advantage are microscopic. You are not making zerglings!
Like what are you going to do? Morph the only zerglings you have left into banelings? Great now you have zero fighting units LOL.
And he may have zero fighting units and have lost a few buildings of his own. Banelings are strong. And the point is to give you OPTIONS. Options SC1 never had.
Re: Zerg Buildings, Graphics + Question
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Originally Posted by
DemolitionSquid
And he may have zero fighting units and have lost a few buildings of his own. Banelings are strong. And the point is to give you OPTIONS. Options SC1 never had.
So now the only time this is useful is when the opponent kills your spawning pool and you manage to kill his at the exact same time. I appologize the chances of this being an advantage arnt microscopic. They are nanoscopic.
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Originally Posted by
ArcherofAiur
So now the only time this is useful is when the opponent kills your spawning pool and you manage to kill his at the exact same time. I appologize the chances of this being an advantage arnt microscopic. They are nanoscopic.
We have NO way of knowing that Spawning Pool death = certain death. Considering by the time you get both a Nest and Pool you'll likely have a strong enough economy to put up another fairly quickly. Plus, defending is easier than attacking.
I don't understand how you're so stupid and ignorant . I try not to insult you, but its so goddamn hard. You're advocating putting all your eggs in one basket. And its retarded.
