Those of you who've been able to play SCII already, has Blizzard brought back many of the same voice actors? Is the Marine still the Marine? SCV? Ghost? BC? Zealot?
This is very important.
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Those of you who've been able to play SCII already, has Blizzard brought back many of the same voice actors? Is the Marine still the Marine? SCV? Ghost? BC? Zealot?
This is very important.
Blizzard said at some point (I think BlizzCon 2008) that only half the units will sound about the same.
The marine sounds very different. It's not a big deal if some of the units sound different, but I hope the ghost sounds the same.
I don't mind different voice actors, as long as the quotes are badass and the acting is superb.
The units dont need to be duplicates, but should still sound badass. Last time I heard the Zealot I wasn't too thrilled (it sounded good, but the lines were meh). The marine sounded pretty good to me, nice to hear "you want a piece of me boy?" again, and the newer "armed and ready" in the Blizzcon 08 vids. Do voices change during the beta?
They're not done with all the sound work. Art is always being changed, so why not sound too?
Because voice acting is expensive. Once they've decided what the unit is supposed to sound like, they're unlikely to change it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimera757
And the Zealot actor was a Blizzard employee who left the company several years ago, so he's unlikely to come back. Marine actor is the same, Ghost actor is the same too.
Dunno about Battlecruiser (hope they change this one completely with the new portrait) or SCV.
Dragoon as well I belive.Quote:
And the Zealot actor was a Blizzard employee who left the company several years ago, so he's unlikely to come back. Marine actor is the same, Ghost actor is the same too.
I actually loved the new Zealot lines. "We are the Blades of Aiur!" "Combat is the anvil of will!" They re-inforce the fact that spirituality plays a great role in the Protoss military mindset, much like Samurai.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Jonny
Even though "None can withstand a Templar!" has a slightly comical ring to it, as if all Templar have such annoying personalities that "none can withstand" their company, and they're proud of it too... :D
Why would voice acting for unit quotes be particularly expensive? Especially if they're using their own employees? One would think model making is more time consuming. It is recording campaign dialog that would be expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldrius
How do you know?Quote:
Marine actor is the same, Ghost actor is the same too.
From what I've heard of the marine, he sounds completely different (and his death voice sounds hollow and crappy), and I've never actually heard the Ghost.
Oh yeah, those lines are good. They even kept "honor guide me" in there. But any line with the word "justice" in it has to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eligor
You pretty much answered your own question. They do hire people for the voices, so to keep making changes would cost more money. But when they use placeholders (their own employees), that's costless. The thing for me is being able to tell what IS a placeholder.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. peasant
His death voice has been there for a long time, and am willing to bet is still a place holder. If you watch one of the newer SP demos, you can hear his voice, and it sound pretty good to me (perhaps a little less stereotyped than the original). Whether thats still a PH I dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandonetho
Ive heard the BC a while back in some video, its sounds pretty close to the original, but its not really hard to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldrius
And I knew the original voice for the zealot was Bill Roper, but it honestly cant be that hard to duplicate such a voice. When it comes to protoss, its really the sound effects that nail it.
Thing is, in previous Blizzard games, the staff often provided voice work even in the finished product. It's likely they only bring in outside professionals for specific characters (e.g. Raynor, Kerrigan) or when they're unsatisfied with their own work. Consequently, I think most of the standard unit quotes we hear were made in-house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Jonny
Agree here, the "justice" line sounds too superhero-ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Jonny
Because they're both voiced by Chris Metzen. The new marine is exactly the same actor as the old marine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandonetho
Voice acting has a stupid payscale. You get paid the same amount whether you say one word or have 5 pages of straight monologues. It depends on how many characters you play, not how much dialogue you have. And every session costs money.Quote:
Why would voice acting for unit quotes be particularly expensive? Especially if they're using their own employees? One would think model making is more time consuming. It is recording campaign dialog that would be expensive.
It's mostly only Chris Metzen and Bill Roper who do (did) any voice acting for the games. (in a large capacity, anyway) Something which will likely only get more true (less employees) now that they've hired Andrea Romano.Quote:
Thing is, in previous Blizzard games, the staff often provided voice work even in the finished product. It's likely they only bring in outside professionals for specific characters (e.g. Raynor, Kerrigan) or when they're unsatisfied with their own work. Consequently, I think most of the standard unit quotes we hear were made in-house.
Voice acting is not terribly expensive unless you're using big name actors, and generally speaking, video games tend to not go for big identifiable Hollywood stars. Regular people audition for it and are selected, paid for their time, ect.
The voice work will of course be improved upon. Regardless of cost, Blizzard has sunk years and years and millions of dollars into this product. Do you really think they would allow sound, which statistically makes up 60% of the gamer's experience, to be anything but superb? Please.
Its likely that they won't finalize the voices until the units are 100% set and ready.
-Dread_Reaper
P.S. Fun fact: Fenix was voiced by Blizzard employee Bill Roper, head of the Diablo franchise.
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Originally Posted by Dread_Reaper
As was Diablo himself. :cool:
It's expensive enough that they won't be wishy-washy and continuously re-do the sound until they like it. Was my point.Quote:
Voice acting is not terribly expensive unless you're using big name actors, and generally speaking, video games tend to not go for big identifiable Hollywood stars. Regular people audition for it and are selected, paid for their time, ect.
Some friends of mine were working on a digital medical presentation and went to a professional voice actor. They needed five minutes' worth of content, which he did for free. However, he said he would normally charge some exorbitant rate like $300 - $500 for something like that. It really depends on who it is that Blizz hires.Quote:
Why would voice acting for unit quotes be particularly expensive?
Thing is... until they are 100% certain those are the final lines for the respective units, would they hire professional voice actors to do things or would they just do it internally first?
I think they do it internally first, but I don't know when they do the final lines. I assume they could start anytime after completion of Single Player, but I need someone to confirm that for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. peasant
They're union-approved now, though.Quote:
However, he said he would normally charge some exorbitant rate like $300 - $500 for something like that. It really depends on who it is that Blizz hires.
They pay the union-approved salary.
How do you know the new marine is voiced by Chris Metzan? He doesn't sound anything like the old marine to me. Was it said somewhere?
It's Chris Metzen's voice, I'm 90% sure, but it wasn't said anywhere. You can believe me if you chose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandonetho