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Visions of Khas
05-17-2016, 04:43 PM
We spend a lot of time bickering over minutia and trivia, but we rarely think creatively or constructively.

What would you want out of future DLC or fan campaigns? How should the races change to adapt to emerging situations? How do conflicts arise without rehashing old plotlines? Should there ever be another Big Bad? Or does the universe need to remain shades of grey, like Game of Thrones in Space?

Gradius
05-17-2016, 04:47 PM
We spend a lot of time bickering over minutia and trivia, but we rarely think creatively or constructively.
That's probably because there's nothing you could possibly make that would make SC2 good all of a sudden. Amon and the craphecy arc will always be canon.

Id be down with a reboot or at least heavy retconning of SC2.

Sheliek
05-17-2016, 05:40 PM
Optimally, the zerg DLC would follow Stukov, and deal with a UED preliminary scouting force doing things in the K-sector. Lead right into StarCraft III.

Turalyon
05-18-2016, 04:09 AM
I think rehashing past stuff is the only recourse for SC now. Covert Ops is sort of doing that already and I'm not sure if that's a response to how Sc2 attempts at being different and creative didn't turn out to be either/ weren't thought of as spectacular or they want to capitalise on nostalgia. To me, all of this signals that there's not really much "meat" left (if any) on the "story-bone" with the Terran, Zerg and Protoss as they are now.

If they really wanted to be creative, they'd just develop a whole new IP.

ragnarok
05-18-2016, 04:17 AM
That's probably because there's nothing you could possibly make that would make SC2 good all of a sudden. Amon and the craphecy arc will always be canon.

Id be down with a reboot or at least heavy retconning of SC2.

They merely need to explain more on Amon's part, given him a backstory and everything, then modify the epilogue in LotV and that'll be it.

TcheQuevara
05-18-2016, 08:58 AM
They could also disconnect completely from the main characters of SC. Instead of stories about the Dominion, Daelam or Zagara's zerg, for example, they could do DLCs about the Umojans, KMs, Tal'Darim, minor broodmothers, etc. Nova's story is actually still of big scale - it's still about trying to save billions of lives and the future of the biggest Terran faction. The DLCs give their freedom to explore the Koprulu sector more microscopically.

Also, DLCs about past story could also be interesting.

sandwich_bird
05-18-2016, 09:58 AM
We spend a lot of time bickering over minutia and trivia, but we rarely think creatively or constructively.

What would you want out of future DLC or fan campaigns? How should the races change to adapt to emerging situations? How do conflicts arise without rehashing old plotlines? Should there ever be another Big Bad? Or does the universe need to remain shades of grey, like Game of Thrones in Space?

There should be another big bad because I can't take shades of grey seriously from this story anymore. Everyone is already pretty much black and white(almost literally if you look at the protoss).

As much as I like Nova covert ops, I don't want more of that. What I really want is for them to throw away the 3rd person view altogether and bring back first person narrative with you as an actual character of the story. If there's something that they should bring back, this is it. When you put players in the shoes of the main character, the quality of the story can be forgivably lesser. This is because the onus of making a satisfying main character is removed from the author while also giving a layer of immersion to the user. This needs to be done because the plot is now directed by the holy rule of cool(meaning it can never truly be serious). I don't believe in retconning and if you're not gonna reboot then at least you should try to mitigate the damage. First person would mitigate the damage. I can fully see myself enjoying a SC3 where I'm the main character and I'm thrown into a "cool" story where a new cheesy big baddie emerges. Put in branching storylines and I'm sold. There is still good in this lore, it just needs to be presented differently.

ragnarok
05-18-2016, 01:00 PM
There should be another big bad because I can't take shades of grey seriously from this story anymore. Everyone is already pretty much black and white(almost literally if you look at the protoss).


We don't need another big bad, we can easily bring Amon back. The guy's lived for billions of years. However arrogant he is, Amon should be nothing like Mengsk, who never learned a damn thing in the end. Me, I always felt in the final epilogue cutscene it's entirely possible he merely faked his death.

sandwich_bird
05-18-2016, 01:20 PM
We don't need another big bad, we can easily bring Amon back. The guy's lived for billions of years. However arrogant he is, Amon should be nothing like Mengsk, who never learned a damn thing in the end. Me, I always felt in the final epilogue cutscene it's entirely possible he merely faked his death.

I'd even be open to this assuming we go 3rd person. I think a fake death would be cheap but they could go the "he can never truly die" route and have parts of him still alive somehow. Like, part of his mind still lives within the remnant of the khala or within the zerg's collective mind. We're already full on magic so meh. I'd just try to avoid the cliche cultist bent on his resurrection garbage if they do this though. I proposed before that the zerg's mind link could become infected with some kind of "virus" that sever Kerri/Zag's ability to control the swarm and instead make the affected zergs act through a true hive mind that has 0 centralized power. This virus could be the remnant of Amon's control.

Visions of Khas
05-18-2016, 01:50 PM
Me, I always felt in the final epilogue cutscene it's entirely possible he merely faked his death.

I always felt that Narud was the one setting up his fake death, seeing as how only Xel'Naga can kill other Xel'Naga.

If we ever want to recapture the "ancient enemy" scenario but witha less megalomaniacal enemy to contend with, I'd love to see species from previous Cycles show up. That would allow the story tellers to explore what happens to those "left behind", as well as the events leading up to it (Ascension, Singularity, Convergent Evolution... thing.) It could give us a glimpse into Amon's own past without resurrecting him or some such BS.

sandwich_bird
05-18-2016, 01:52 PM
I always felt that Narud was the one setting up his fake death, seeing as how only Xel'Naga can kill other Xel'Naga.

If we ever want to recapture the "ancient enemy" scenario but witha less megalomaniacal enemy to contend with, I'd love to see species from previous Cycles show up. That would allow the story tellers to explore what happens to those "left behind", as well as the events leading up to it (Ascension, Singularity, Convergent Evolution... thing.) It could give us a glimpse into Amon's own past without resurrecting him or some such BS.

That actually is a pretty great idea. 4th race theory-crafting here we go!

Visions of Khas
05-18-2016, 02:06 PM
I proposed before that the zerg's mind link could become infected with some kind of "virus" that sever Kerri/Zag's ability to control the swarm and instead make the affected zergs act through a true hive mind that has 0 centralized power. This virus could be the remnant of Amon's control.
I could totes see that. Maybe Amon implanted some "fail-safes" in the Zerg genome that would fracture the Swarm. I'd like to see more diversity within the Zerg: multiple Brood Mothers vying for control; psychic control fluctuating; a fraction of the Zerg (maybe the Ferals through out the sector) being unified by some mutating telepathy genes that result in something akin to a smaller Overmind; control over essence manipulation falling apart and new creatures spontaneously generating, or old assimilating races spontaneously emerging among Zerg nests. Perhaps a Queen cultivates a world where ferals are allowed to breed and expand just to see what sort of mutations or hierarchy emerge, like a petri dish.

ragnarok
05-18-2016, 04:40 PM
I always felt that Narud was the one setting up his fake death, seeing as how only Xel'Naga can kill other Xel'Naga.

If we ever want to recapture the "ancient enemy" scenario but witha less megalomaniacal enemy to contend with, I'd love to see species from previous Cycles show up. That would allow the story tellers to explore what happens to those "left behind", as well as the events leading up to it (Ascension, Singularity, Convergent Evolution... thing.) It could give us a glimpse into Amon's own past without resurrecting him or some such BS.

Don't be stupid, VoK. If we take only Xel'Naga can kill other Xel'Naga, how the hell did Amon kill most of the regular Xel'Naga by merely unleashing the swarm on Zerus in the first place?

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I could totes see that. Maybe Amon implanted some "fail-safes" in the Zerg genome that would fracture the Swarm. I'd like to see more diversity within the Zerg: multiple Brood Mothers vying for control; psychic control fluctuating; a fraction of the Zerg (maybe the Ferals through out the sector) being unified by some mutating telepathy genes that result in something akin to a smaller Overmind; control over essence manipulation falling apart and new creatures spontaneously generating, or old assimilating races spontaneously emerging among Zerg nests. Perhaps a Queen cultivates a world where ferals are allowed to breed and expand just to see what sort of mutations or hierarchy emerge, like a petri dish.

Multiple broodmothers vying for control is easy. All you have to do is look at the synopsis for the SC Evolution book. Given what Zagara was planning for the swarm, it's obvious others won't agree with her, since this is going against everything the Zerg stand for. Zurvan had said it himself that the whole heritage of the Zerg is to consume and evolve.

Sheliek
05-18-2016, 05:00 PM
With the Amon talk on the end of the previous page, I was actually rolling an idea around in my head for a campaign intro yesterday. Involved something like 'purge teams' on the terrans who take out reported Hybrid facilities. Instead of being directed by Amon, these few remaining hybrid and their thralls would just be mindlessly aggressive and destructive, but still major threats of mining and colonizing operations.

Visions of Khas
05-18-2016, 05:21 PM
Don't be stupid, VoK. If we take only Xel'Naga can kill other Xel'Naga, how the hell did Amon kill most of the regular Xel'Naga by merely unleashing the swarm on Zerus in the first place?

I thought the implication was that Amon and his allied Xel'Naga servants awaited the "good" ones in the Void, and then killed them when they arrived there.

ragnarok
05-18-2016, 06:19 PM
I thought the implication was that Amon and his allied Xel'Naga servants awaited the "good" ones in the Void, and then killed them when they arrived there.

That's not how I saw it. Remember what Rohana said: in the final confrontation during the war amongst the gods at Zerus, Amon was defeated and forced back into the Void.

This means that although plenty of Xel'Naga were killed, ultimately they DID prevail in beating Amon at Zerus. The ones that survived then returned to Ulnar, and of Amon's followers, Duran was the only one who survived.

Visions of Khas
05-18-2016, 08:10 PM
That's not how I saw it. Remember what Rohana said: in the final confrontation during the war amongst the gods at Zerus, Amon was defeated and forced back into the Void.

Right; all Xel'Naga return to the Void upon death in the material world. Amon confronted and killed them in the Void after the debacle over Zerus.

Now, how did one Xel'Naga kill all the others? Well, I assume there were relatively few Xel'Naga still in existence at that point; and Amon's been planning shit for literally thousands of years, so I assume he had more than a few tricks up his tentacle-sleeves. Maybe he learned how to subvert the Void before he and the other 'Naga were sent there. The others did spend most of their time napping, after all. Like fat, interdimensional squid-cats.

Which makes me wonder: Is Void energy still dangerous to use, seeing as how it was corrupted by Amon? Is it inherently unstable and dangerous? Will Dark Templar be able to wield it more easily now?

ragnarok
05-18-2016, 09:45 PM
Right; all Xel'Naga return to the Void upon death in the material world. Amon confronted and killed them in the Void after the debacle over Zerus.

Now, how did one Xel'Naga kill all the others? Well, I assume there were relatively few Xel'Naga still in existence at that point; and Amon's been planning shit for literally thousands of years, so I assume he had more than a few tricks up his tentacle-sleeves. Maybe he learned how to subvert the Void before he and the other 'Naga were sent there. The others did spend most of their time napping, after all. Like fat, interdimensional squid-cats.

Which makes me wonder: Is Void energy still dangerous to use, seeing as how it was corrupted by Amon? Is it inherently unstable and dangerous? Will Dark Templar be able to wield it more easily now?

Well, given that Ouros said that only another Xel'Naga can kill Amon, that must mean he had some sort of power the other Xel'Naga didn't.

For your Q about the Void energy, it's possible that Amon corrupted at least parts of the Void, and it's from there that he gained the strength others didn't. But still, the Void energy should be fine to use. There's dangers, but I doubt the WHOLE of the Void was corrupted by Amon. He probably only corrupted parts of it, and the Dark Templar used parts of the Void that weren't corrupted.

Turalyon
05-19-2016, 04:02 AM
I'd love to see species from previous Cycles show up.

Wouldn't they all be Xel'Naga or dead by now?

Still, the idea of previous cycle races is pretty neat though. I'd like to think the Xel'Naga weren't that completely incompetent in reproducing by only setting up the Zerg and the Protoss as their only heirs, just to be totally ruined forever right from the very inception of those two races because of Amon.

Maybe they could introduce some races that were failed purities of essence /form being jelly of the Terrans, Zerg and Protoss for being special. Or they could flip it and have the K-sector races being considered failed/corrupted purities that need to be expunged by other races that are more "purer"/unsullied (given that the Zerg and Protoss were tainted by Amon) in order to continue the Cycle. It'd be neat since those other races can be made as warped mirror images of the current races or, if they were really creative, give them totally different spins. They don't have to be made out as generic bad, evil guys either.

ragnarok
05-19-2016, 10:29 AM
Wouldn't they all be Xel'Naga or dead by now?

Still, the idea of previous cycle races is pretty neat though. I'd like to think the Xel'Naga weren't that completely incompetent in reproducing by only setting up the Zerg and the Protoss as their only heirs, just to be totally ruined forever right from the very inception of those two races because of Amon.

Maybe they could introduce some races that were failed purities of essence /form being jelly of the Terrans, Zerg and Protoss for being special. Or they could flip it and have the K-sector races being considered failed/corrupted purities that need to be expunged by other races that are more "purer"/unsullied (given that the Zerg and Protoss were tainted by Amon) in order to continue the Cycle. It'd be neat since those other races can be made as warped mirror images of the current races or, if they were really creative, give them totally different spins. They don't have to be made out as generic bad, evil guys either.

That depends if the Xel'Naga originally even WANTED the Protoss to have purity of form in the first place. Do you believe if Amon never interfered, they would have gotten that purity?

Visions of Khas
05-19-2016, 10:30 AM
I'd like to see a faction composed of two races that are in the midst of their own merger; a race of essence and another of form have achieved peace and are slowly and methodically merging with one another over the course of centuries. Each race on their own, like the terrans, are nothing compared to the Zerg and Protoss; but together are more than the sum of their parts. And of course you'd have those sub-factions utterly opposed to the merger, and other extremist sects.

And they don't have to be "Pure", either. Perhaps each is flawed in its own way, but possess that Terran-like determination and grit that has seen humanity survive so long. And of course you'd have those Protoss and Zerg who are all like, "Well, y'know, this whole ascension thing doesn't look too bad..." and the resulting political fallout.

Turalyon
05-20-2016, 03:50 AM
That depends if the Xel'Naga originally even WANTED the Protoss to have purity of form in the first place. Do you believe if Amon never interfered, they would have gotten that purity?

Well, given that Sc2 redefines purity of form as being something with incredible psionic powers, then yeah, the Protoss have it. Then again, relying on and accepting any new information from Sc2 is pointless since it set a precedent for us to expect asspull retcons from now on.


I'd like to see a faction composed of two races that are in the midst of their own merger; a race of essence and another of form have achieved peace and are slowly and methodically merging with one another over the course of centuries. Each race on their own, like the terrans, are nothing compared to the Zerg and Protoss; but together are more than the sum of their parts. And of course you'd have those sub-factions utterly opposed to the merger, and other extremist sects.

And they don't have to be "Pure", either. Perhaps each is flawed in its own way, but possess that Terran-like determination and grit that has seen humanity survive so long. And of course you'd have those Protoss and Zerg who are all like, "Well, y'know, this whole ascension thing doesn't look too bad..." and the resulting political fallout.

This race you mentioned would be an interesting idea for the "antagonist" role since they wouldn't necessarily be overtly malicious, or evil, in any way (to differentiate it from all the previous big bads of Sc). They'd be antagonist in name only because they're up against the main three races we know so well. Plenty opportunities for grayness to come back there since, like you said, you could have those subfactions within the three races being for and against this new race.

That said, a DLC focussing on a past cycle altogether (a prequel essentially) and different races embodying the purities would open doors for creativity and be an interesting way to inform how this new faction came about in the present timeline.

Visions of Khas
05-20-2016, 07:15 AM
^ Totally. Any story will have to have terrans in the narrative. If Blizz wants to change roles up a little bit, a UED faction could take the place of the Quality race, while the hypothetical Ascending race assumes the middle-of-the-road position.

ragnarok
05-20-2016, 05:54 PM
Well, given that Sc2 redefines purity of form as being something with incredible psionic powers, then yeah, the Protoss have it. Then again, relying on and accepting any new information from Sc2 is pointless since it set a precedent for us to expect asspull retcons from now on.


This was the one thing I hated about LotV with the whole purity of form retcon. It would have been so much easier to have an energy transfer the other way to Ouros, which would then better explain why Zeratul told Kerrigan about Zerus in HotS

Gradius
05-20-2016, 06:31 PM
This was the one thing I hated about LotV with the whole purity of form retcon. It would have been so much easier to have an energy transfer the other way to Ouros, which would then better explain why Zeratul told Kerrigan about Zerus in HotS
But then SC2 would have a plot that isn't "The Kerrigan & Raynor Show". :P

ragnarok
05-21-2016, 06:34 AM
But then SC2 would have a plot that isn't "The Kerrigan & Raynor Show". :P

Actually yes it would, Gradius. Kerrigan knew at the end of the 1st epilogue mission a major sacrifice was needed, and by doing it this way, it would have worked.

On the other hand, if they actually did the redemption path consistently in HotS....

Equiliari
05-24-2016, 07:16 AM
Creation and early history of the Protoss.
Creation and evolutionary development of the Zerg.
Crashing of the Super-carriers and early expansion of Terrans.

Maybe through the eyes of Archaeologists.

ragnarok
05-24-2016, 08:19 PM
Creation and early history of the Protoss.

Maybe through the eyes of Archaeologists.

Blizzard would say they already did this via the DT Saga trilogy.

Nolanstar
05-25-2016, 05:27 PM
Something a bit ddifferent switch around the races. Imagine a Zerg brood arrives in a sector where they are the quality faction, or protoss get to the next galaxy to take a middle or lower position.

drakolobo
05-25-2016, 08:44 PM
maybe a backup plan Narud / amon that has no need of them, a farewell in style, beating them from the grave
Amon and Naruto being a threat, without being brought back, not resurrected. only flash back with a plan to run at us own pace

ragnarok
05-26-2016, 01:30 AM
Something a bit ddifferent switch around the races. Imagine a Zerg brood arrives in a sector where they are the quality faction, or protoss get to the next galaxy to take a middle or lower position.

I'm not sure of a lower position, the Protoss tend to have too much pride for such a thing. The former Khalai ones, at least.

Equiliari
05-26-2016, 02:18 AM
Blizzard would say they already did this via the DT Saga trilogy.

Myeah, and Liberty's Crusade was the Terran campaign. DT saga needs an in game campaign too.

ragnarok
05-26-2016, 02:26 AM
Myeah, and Liberty's Crusade was the Terran campaign. DT saga needs an in game campaign too.

Except the DT Saga was meant to be a prequel to SC2, and for the most part it just didn't fit given what we learned in LotV. I don't have a problem with the discovery that it was Amon who uplifted the Protoss on Aiur, just that more should have been explained.

Equiliari
05-26-2016, 05:26 AM
just that more should have been explained.

Which is partly why I mentioned that I wanted a future DLC-history that could possibly explore this, or other things related to the Protoss, Zerg and Terran arrival and/or colonization of the Koprulu sector. I know stories have been told, but not all stories have. There is still a lot to explore.

ragnarok
05-26-2016, 08:19 AM
Which is partly why I mentioned that I wanted a future DLC-history that could possibly explore this, or other things related to the Protoss, Zerg and Terran arrival and/or colonization of the Koprulu sector. I know stories have been told, but not all stories have. There is still a lot to explore.

Same here. I still want to know more about Amon and everything, what motivated him and everything. Protoss development can continue for what happens next, I just don't want all future DLCs to focus on retribution. That's something that I've been seeing too much of (it was the same when I looked at the Teamliquid forums): a lot of people wanted the ending to have the reckoning done on Kerrigan since she's the last loose end unaccounted for.

Visions of Khas
05-26-2016, 08:36 AM
It would be interesting for a DLC to depict tribal war, Amon's descent to Aiur, the ensuing Aeon of Strife. Witnessing the evolution of technology and the khala, plus the possibility that not all of Amon's followers might be in on the plan. I think that would be fitting; Amon convinces some "good" Xel"Naga that direct intervention can be beneficial, taking advantage of them in creating the end of the Cycle. Amon seems the type to relish that kind of petty deceit and irony.

ragnarok
05-26-2016, 08:54 AM
It would be interesting for a DLC to depict tribal war, Amon's descent to Aiur, the ensuing Aeon of Strife. Witnessing the evolution of technology and the khala, plus the possibility that not all of Amon's followers might be in on the plan. I think that would be fitting; Amon convinces some "good" Xel"Naga that direct intervention can be beneficial, taking advantage of them in creating the end of the Cycle. Amon seems the type to relish that kind of petty deceit and irony.

I'm not sure they WOULD witness the tech evolution and the Khala. You have to remember that it was only after Khas rediscovered the Khala link back in 500 BC that Protoss civilization on Aiur actually began. As explained in the Reclamation vid right before LotV was out, during the Aeon of Strife, the Protoss people behaved like barbarians.

But upon the rediscovery of the link, the regular Xel'Naga confronted Amon at Zerus. He was defeated and forced back into the Void, and of his followers, it would appear Duran was the only one who survived.

Nissa
05-26-2016, 11:46 AM
Man, it's been too long since I posted here.


We spend a lot of time bickering over minutia and trivia, but we rarely think creatively or constructively.

What would you want out of future DLC or fan campaigns? How should the races change to adapt to emerging situations? How do conflicts arise without rehashing old plotlines? Should there ever be another Big Bad? Or does the universe need to remain shades of grey, like Game of Thrones in Space?

Lol. Absolutely no "Game of Thrones." Granted, that's closer to true Starcraft than SCII, but nah.

Um, what I want, more than anything else, is a Starcraft game that makes me feel like the original game did. Back in the 90s, Sci-fi was in a good place. It felt cold, gritty, and weird. Two games that summarize that feeling for me are Mechwarrior (SNES) and Star Fox (SNES). Both made me feel like I was in some strange, cold universe where the only things I could rely on were myself in my allies -- though the "allies" thing is kind of a joke in Star Fox. Everything felt so gritty, like a space western, where everything can kill you, and the only boundary between you and death is your skill.

Basically, I want Starcraft to feel like that again. I don't want it to be inspirational, dramatic, socially conscious, or heavily archetypal. Just a bunch of people trying to achieve their goals with varying levels of morality.

That being said, I don't want a rehash of past stuff. I'd like a story that has as little as possible to do with canon lore. That's really the main failure of all the official novels I've read - the ones that suck the most are the ones that try and restate/retcon what gamers already know. We need something that's just maybe a campaign of Terran stuff: Dominion vs. Moria vs. Umoja. Or maybe a story of a dude from nowhere. A campaign on a young Judicator learning to cope with a new life paradigm. Or something about Zerg expansion outside of the K Sector. Something smaller in scale than the interplanetary wars of the games.

ragnarok
05-26-2016, 03:32 PM
That being said, I don't want a rehash of past stuff. I'd like a story that has as little as possible to do with canon lore. That's really the main failure of all the official novels I've read - the ones that suck the most are the ones that try and restate/retcon what gamers already know. We need something that's just maybe a campaign of Terran stuff: Dominion vs. Moria vs. Umoja. Or maybe a story of a dude from nowhere. A campaign on a young Judicator learning to cope with a new life paradigm. Or something about Zerg expansion outside of the K Sector. Something smaller in scale than the interplanetary wars of the games.

It'd have to be only Dominion vs Moria now. Valerian is on good terms with the Umojans, I don't see them doing anything to the Dominion anymore.

Nissa
05-27-2016, 10:43 AM
It'd have to be only Dominion vs Moria now. Valerian is on good terms with the Umojans, I don't see them doing anything to the Dominion anymore.

Well, that's just an example.

That, and I hate that the whole alliance with Umoja thing basically all happened offscreen.

Kinda wish it'd get retconned out...

ragnarok
05-27-2016, 04:16 PM
Well, that's just an example.

That, and I hate that the whole alliance with Umoja thing basically all happened offscreen.

Kinda wish it'd get retconned out...

It doesn't have to get retconned out, they can just put it in a book or something....

Turalyon
05-28-2016, 01:04 AM
I hate that the whole alliance with Umoja thing basically all happened offscreen.

Get used to it. We could replace the bolded with so many things from Sc2, it ain't even funny anymore... (eg: whole Raynor forgiving Kerrigan, Dominion being an invulnerable and continually viable political entity despite experiencing multiple crushing defeats, Amon being the ultimate mastermind of all happenings within Sc, Overmind being mentally enslaved, the whole setup/history of the Zerg and Protoss history being a sham, and so on).


Kinda wish it'd get retconned out...

Oh, I guess we can give Sc2 some kudos in this regard since it set-up the precedent for full-blown retcons to happen at any time or place.

There, there Nissa. Your wish may very well be granted soon...

ragnarok
05-28-2016, 06:54 PM
Get used to it. We could replace the bolded with so many things from Sc2, it ain't even funny anymore... (eg: whole Raynor forgiving Kerrigan, Dominion being an invulnerable and continually viable political entity despite experiencing multiple crushing defeats, Amon being the ultimate mastermind of all happenings within Sc, Overmind being mentally enslaved, the whole setup/history of the Zerg and Protoss history being a sham, and so on).


Hence the need for them to go through a serious strain in relationship post LotV. I'm still expecting Raynor to tell Kerrigan that in the end she hardly learned a thing about humanity. Once she finally starts seeing more to them than just the worst it has to offer, then she can learn.

As for the Dominion being invulnerable, the book SC Evolution hopefully will say otherwise, given that the Dominion is still rebuilding.

Nissa
05-30-2016, 09:47 AM
There, there Nissa. You're wish may very well be granted soon...

....That's the sad/annoying/happy thing about it. Honestly, Blizzard has stabbed the poor canon so many times that it'll be a wonder if a real sequel ever comes out. Well, says the person who has never played Warcraft.

ragnarok
05-30-2016, 12:40 PM
....That's the sad/annoying/happy thing about it. Honestly, Blizzard has stabbed the poor canon so many times that it'll be a wonder if a real sequel ever comes out. Well, says the person who has never played Warcraft.

Once again you go out like this. Trust me Nissa, if all you're going to so is go about it like that, I'm surprised you haven't made like 500 threads of such ventings.

Nissa
05-31-2016, 02:07 PM
Mr. Rag, dear buddy, Starcraft is what got me started in writing. It made me care about stories and how they are told, as well as its fanfiction being the first story I ever really wrote. I am going to care when my franchise goes down a bad road.

ragnarok
05-31-2016, 03:24 PM
Mr. Rag, dear buddy, Starcraft is what got me started in writing. It made me care about stories and how they are told, as well as its fanfiction being the first story I ever really wrote. I am going to care when my franchise goes down a bad road.

Figures. Well I work with what was given to me. HotS and LotV certainly made things a lot harder when it comes to redemption, but everyone deserves a chance, so after Covert Ops and maybe Evolution, we'll see how things are then

TheEconomist
06-02-2016, 11:06 AM
Once again you go out like this. Trust me Nissa, if all you're going to so is go about it like that, I'm surprised you haven't made like 500 threads of such ventings.

I've found it. I've finally found it. The internet's most awkward sentence. What a rare treat.

ragnarok
06-02-2016, 03:11 PM
I've found it. I've finally found it. The internet's most awkward sentence. What a rare treat.

What are you talking about?

KaiserStratosTygo
06-03-2016, 12:07 PM
What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

ragnarok
06-03-2016, 03:31 PM
What are you talking about?

I was asking Econ