View Full Version : Am I the only one who's pissed...
Visions of Khas
11-22-2015, 04:20 PM
That we don't get to use Oracles, Disruptors, Observers or Prisms at all during the LotV? I'm most pissed about the Disruptors and Oracles never getting any show time in the campaign. We couldn't have a rogue band of rescue-able Oracles introduce themselves briefly during a mission? Could Disruptors not have a few seconds on Cybros?
FanaticTemplar
11-22-2015, 05:13 PM
That we don't get to use Oracles, Disruptors, Observers or Prisms at all during the LotV? I'm most pissed about the Disruptors and Oracles never getting any show time in the campaign. We couldn't have a rogue band of rescue-able Oracles introduce themselves briefly during a mission? Could Disruptors not have a few seconds on Cybros?
Yes. Blizzard's dedication to not having enemies use Cloaked units confounds me. I figured in Wings of Liberty it was because all the detection units other than Missile Turrets were optional, but apparently not. So no detection necessary. I mean, maybe if this were just a lower difficulty thing? Their removing all methods of transport from the game - especially Nydus Worms in Heart of the Swarm bothers me even more.
Gradius
11-22-2015, 05:20 PM
To be fair, I'm sure transports can lead to some exploits that'd make it really easy to beat the mission or get achievements. One of the missions in Subjection suffered from this. :P
TheProgramer
11-22-2015, 09:18 PM
I used mind control to get units I couldn't normally build.
FanaticTemplar
11-22-2015, 09:49 PM
To be fair, I'm sure transports can lead to some exploits that'd make it really easy to beat the mission or get achievements. One of the missions in Subjection suffered from this. :P
Oh, I'm sure that's the reason, yes. But I still think it's quite upsetting. I don't know, I'd rather have some people be able to exploit easy wins than remove the entire facet from the game.
Drake Clawfang
11-23-2015, 12:20 AM
To be honest; not really. The colossus and reaver and high templar, along with the Spear of Adun's abilities, give us plenty for AoE, there's not much practical use for transports, and Oracles are only good for melee raids and are outclassed by most other starships. I don't see much they could add to the campaign's gameplay.
Nissa
11-23-2015, 12:54 AM
To be honest; not really. The colossus and reaver and high templar, along with the Spear of Adun's abilities, give us plenty for AoE, there's not much practical use for transports, and Oracles are only good for melee raids and are outclassed by most other starships. I don't see much they could add to the campaign's gameplay.
It's not about adding to gameplay, but allowing the player to make his own decisions, as well as replay the level any way he wants.
Jconant
11-24-2015, 06:06 AM
The stasis mines wouldve been really useful dealing with the waves of baddies...and warp prism use wouldve undermined the first tier of spear's abilities; but on that point i woulve rather had more interesting options on that tier and keep a prism as my front line warpin tool.
Oracle could have opened a whole section of casters that i dont think blizzard was prepared to offer: dt oracle, auir arbiter, mothership? (then throw in a different taldarim or DT captial ship)
Drake Clawfang
11-24-2015, 10:47 AM
That makes sense, actually. With the hints Arbiter and Mothership weren't supposed to be part of those tiers anyway, I could see them occupying the flying caster tier with the Oracle.
KaiserStratosTygo
11-25-2015, 01:03 PM
Oh, I'm sure that's the reason, yes. But I still think it's quite upsetting. I don't know, I'd rather have some people be able to exploit easy wins than remove the entire facet from the game.
Agreed.
all it does is limit the gameplay (which was one of the main issues with HotS and why it was not even remotely fun)
It's not about adding to gameplay, but allowing the player to make his own decisions, as well as replay the level any way he wants.
Also this.
TheProgramer
11-25-2015, 08:54 PM
What pissed me off is mind controlling a builder won't let you build anything!
TheEconomist
11-29-2015, 11:27 AM
What pissed me off is mind controlling a builder won't let you build anything!
Damn, now THAT'S disappointing. I had planned out by second playthrough revolving around Zerg and Terran strategies :(
Also, what FanaticTemplar said.
Visions of Khas
11-29-2015, 07:59 PM
Also, am I the only one who's pissed that they took the graceful and organic design of the Xel'Naga temple and turned it into this geometric absurdity?
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/5/5e/XelNagaTemple_SC2_Art1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100711161535
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/LotV/Campaign/shakuras4large.jpg
Gradius
11-29-2015, 08:02 PM
I just don't understand that map. Is there a base or slab of ground right on top of the actual temple?
Visions of Khas
11-29-2015, 10:15 PM
Is there a base or slab of ground right on top of the actual temple?
What do you mean? The temple is to the right in that image.
Gradius
11-29-2015, 10:18 PM
What do you mean? The temple is to the right in that image.
No the temple's arms wrap around your base on the map if you zoom out. And then you can see sand below the arms just like in the aftermath of the explosion in BW.
It gives the impression that there's literally a pile of dirt on top of the temple and we are building our base on it...
Visions of Khas
11-29-2015, 10:42 PM
... Okay, you're right, and this makes no sense...
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