The Story So Far

[KaiserStratosTygo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VMLk9ROHE

That's.... bad...

[ragnarok]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VMLk9ROHE

That's.... bad...

Most of BW was ignored. Though this WOULD then explain the lack of retribution towards Kerrigan on the Protoss end. If you take out the BW COMPLETELY....

[Sheliek]

Hey, let's do some math.

The terrans have been the K-Sector for the 300 years.

The Inquistions happened 800 years before they were shipped according to the manual. At their earliest, they happened in 1200. That would make the shipping date 2000. They ended in the late 1800s. Let's say 1900 for simplicity. They would've been shipped in 2700. Okay. Most pervasive? 1600. Therefore they were shipped in 2400.

YOU HAD ONE JOB BLIZZARD.

So I think we can just accept that vanilla and Brood War aren't canon any more? Kay. I can accept that. It's like the EU to the Star Wars movies.

OH GOD IT GETS WORSE

Man, I loved Rebel Yell. Mengsk was a great villain, but it's a shame Raynor failed to overthrow him until HotS. Rebel Yell, the campaign were you tried to get revenge on Mengsk for 10 missions was great.

And then the protoss campaign, though. The first mission (since the zerg weren't on Aiur yet) where you go rescue Tassadar! Great stuff.

And boy, I remember how it took like half the campaign for Zeratul to convince Artanis to ally with the DTs.

So that's the first two campaigns.

Then we get to the third one: Kerrigan's. Good stuff, war ends and peace! No one important was killed though.

[ragnarok]

So I think we can just accept that vanilla and Brood War aren't canon any more? Kay. I can accept that. It's like the EU to the Star Wars movies.


I won't. What happened to Raszagal should play a major role in the retribution factor in LotV.

[Sheliek]

Nah, it didn't happen. Didn't you see that summary?

Campaign 1: Terran. The intro shows Kerrigan betrayed by Mengsk, and Raynor tries to overthrow him but fails.
Campaign 2: Protoss. Artanis rescues Tassadar, most of the campaign is spent arguing with Zeratul before he convinces them. Then, the zerg invade, but don't worry!, Tassadar saves the day. They go to Shakuras because feral zerg are still deadly.
Campaign 3: Zerg. Kerrigan betrays everyone, but no one important dies. Queue SC2.

I'd be less acidic about this, but I just had a stroke from stupidity before I even saw this, so excuse me if this is uncharacteristically mean.

[ragnarok]

Nah, it didn't happen. Didn't you see that summary?

Campaign 1: Terran. The intro shows Kerrigan betrayed by Mengsk, and Raynor tries to overthrow him but fails.
Campaign 2: Protoss. Artanis rescues Tassadar, most of the campaign is spent arguing with Zeratul before he convinces them. Then, the zerg invade, but don't worry!, Tassadar saves the day. They go to Shakuras because feral zerg are still deadly.
Campaign 3: Zerg. Kerrigan betrays everyone, but no one important dies. Queue SC2.

I'd be less acidic about this, but I just had a stroke from stupidity before I even saw this, so excuse me if this is uncharacteristically mean.

Yeah I know, which is a shame. Clearly the writers are not paying attention to the BW lore one bit. I hate it.

[The_Blade]

*swells with betrayal spirit*

It's funny how they also made a retcon of WoL and HotS.

No focus on Zerg attacks during WoL. Kerrigan sat on Char gardening her creep gardens. The whole capture of Kerrigan was because Zeratul said so. The Dominion was the main enemy. No primal Zerg! Kerrigan was not saved by Raynor, she surpased Mengsk's traps on her own...

Many more are less subtle changes...

[ragnarok]

*swells with betrayal spirit*

It's funny how they also made a retcon of WoL and HotS.

No focus on Zerg attacks during WoL. Kerrigan sat on Char gardening her creep gardens. The whole capture of Kerrigan was because Zeratul said so. The Dominion was the main enemy. No primal Zerg! Kerrigan was not saved by Raynor, she surpased Mengsk's traps on her own...

Many more are less subtle changes...

It just proves how quickly Blizzard forgets things, and this is one reason to expect LotV to fall flat on its face. Forgetting the lore of SC1 and BW is one thing, but forgetting your OWN lore on games you just made....

[KaiserStratosTygo]

Nah, it didn't happen. Didn't you see that summary?

Campaign 1: Terran. The intro shows Kerrigan betrayed by Mengsk, and Raynor tries to overthrow him but fails.
Campaign 2: Protoss. Artanis rescues Tassadar, most of the campaign is spent arguing with Zeratul before he convinces them. Then, the zerg invade, but don't worry!, Tassadar saves the day. They go to Shakuras because feral zerg are still deadly.
Campaign 3: Zerg. Kerrigan betrays everyone, but no one important dies. Queue SC2.

I'd be less acidic about this, but I just had a stroke from stupidity before I even saw this, so excuse me if this is uncharacteristically mean.

I read this, rewatched the video and..

brb must puke.

[ragnarok]

I read this, rewatched the video and..

brb must puke.

Don't worry Stratos. There's quite a few who've said similarly on the battlenet forums and are becoming even more pessimistic.

[Robear]

Yeah most of this is bad, to the point where listening to it a second time in preparation for writing this comment was kinda painful.

Even within the video itself, it's not well-put together. For example, the first time the Overmind is mentioned is 2 minutes in: "When Zeratul struck down one of the Overmind's cerebrates..." Prior to this, while the narrator has mentioned the Zerg numerous times, she had never said that the Overmind and cerebrates control the Zerg. I imagine it'd be very confusing to a complete newcomer to Starcraft.

I'm fine with making an overview video with a shallow level of depth, but I really don't understand the decision to go into detail with some things, like mentioning Zeratul killing a cerebrate at all, since cerebrates will never be relevant again, but neglect others like even mentioning the Confederacy and that Kerrigan wasn't the sole reason for Raynor to oppose Mengsk, is sort of mystifying.

If I had better video editing skills I would make my own version of this. Maybe I can just write my own voiceover that still matches up with their visuals.

[Visions of Khas]

I wonder who's narrating. Vorazun or Rohana?

[drakolobo]

is a summary criticize harshly as it is quite pessimistic, as Robear says, sins to be more detailed with some parts and other more austere

[ragnarok]

I wonder who's narrating. Vorazun or Rohana?

Hard to say, we haven't heard either of their voices yet.

[Robear]

I'd bet it's Rohana just because as a Preserver, makes sense she'd be the one recounting history.


You know, I actually do want to make my/our own lore recap video. Really in the style of this video, with a really shallow, light touch, and only being 5 minutes long or less, aimed at newcomers who know no lore. Obviously we'll have to recap the prophecy stuff that none of us like, but I think we could do a good one. And even if it only gets a few views, it wouldn't take too much effort. We have a lot of the relevant images to just throw together with narration in iMovie or whatever, like, I can talk about Raynor while this image (http://i.imgur.com/ySqI1tv.jpg) pans by without needing the fancy protoss transition video screen effects.

Anyone want to help me with the 4-or-5 minute script, just modifying the original to be better. Like, instead of the "300 years" thing and making it seem like the only war was between Raynor and Mengsk, it could start with


Believing themselves to be alone in the universe, the terrans of the koprulu sector fought amongst themselves, as their ancestors had on Earth...

And just lightly throw in the Confederacy like


Marshall Jim Raynor fought alongside Sarah Kerrigan for freedom fighter Arcturus Mengsk, only to discover he was just as bad when he used the Zerg as a weapon to overthrow the Confederacy, betrayed Kerrigan and declared himself Emperor.
(written slightly better, but that's where you come in.)
Anyone in?

[Visions of Khas]

Something that bothered me was the fact that the trailer treats the war as though Terrans are on equal footing with the Zerg and Protoss. The original StarCraft framed it so that the real war was between the Protoss and Zerg, with hapless humans caught in the middle.

[ragnarok]

Something that bothered me was the fact that the trailer treats the war as though Terrans are on equal footing with the Zerg and Protoss. The original StarCraft framed it so that the real war was between the Protoss and Zerg, with hapless humans caught in the middle.

It was. The Overmind's goal was to assimilate the Protoss, along with their psionic talent. Problem was the Khala prevented Zerg infestation and assimilation, so the Overmind turned to the terran race (who also had psionics, but certainly inferior to that of the Protoss) as a stop-gap solution. Of course, after his death at the end of SC1, maybe the situation changed.

The most that can be said is by the time of SC2, you can say they're not longer just "caught in the middle."

[RetlocLive]

Copy and paste from B.Net regarding my biggest issues with this recap.

1) Changing the order of events of Episode II and Episode III means that Artanis formed an alliance with Tassadar and Zeratul much earlier than he was supposed to. There's hardly a justification anymore as to why Artanis would choose to side with them over the Conclave since the Aiur invasion hadn't begun at this point to reveal the Zerg's weakness, which was one of the primary reasons Tassadar was able to convince Artanis to go looking for Zeratul. One could also argue that Artanis witnessing the Antioch and Scion campaigns of Episode III being a complete bust was a logical reason for Artanis to believe that the way the Conclave did things was going to eventually lose them the war on Aiur. Not having that takes away why he would choose to betray the Conclave even further.

2) Making Zeratul the one that convinces Artanis that Dark Templar aren't heretic takes away the whole point of Tassadar's character being the bridge that allowed for Protoss of the Khala to begin viewing them in a better light.

3) Completely removing the whole UED invasion has Kerrigan gathering allies, and betraying them, for no legitimate reason.

[RODTHEGOD]

It actually pisses me off how much they've fucked up on starcraft 2

[KaiserStratosTygo]

It actually pisses me off how much they've fucked up on starcraft 2

Join the club.

[Jconant]

That summation was lazy. In the zerg and terran acts, Tassadar and Zeratul are fighting the zerg and thanks to zeratul's slaying a cerebrate on char, the overmind launches his invasion of auir > protoss (act 3) mission 1: the conclave appoint their best templar [Artanis] as Executor, as Tassadar is "mia"....yall know the rest, but it was that one glaring flaw in retelling the sequence of events that irked me.

[Nissa]

...They didn't mention Aldaris. :(

Then again, they probably would have just said something stupid about him anyway, so whatever.

[ragnarok]

...They didn't mention Aldaris. :(

Then again, they probably would have just said something stupid about him anyway, so whatever.

Blizzard felt he was best forgotten, big surprise.