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Thread: The % Speed on the Creep?

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    Default The % Speed on the Creep?

    Hi guys, sorry if this is already being discussed, but I noticed in latest Crota's videos that Upgraded Roaches has Speed of 3 and + 0,9 on Creep, while Hydras got 2,25 + 1,12 on Creep? So basically that means that Creep isn't +30% MS but it is different for every unit, cause in this case Hydras MS got bonus of 50%? Did somebody looked at this? So all units get different bonus in per cents?
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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Yeah, look at the queen and you will se that it is quite obvious.

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    Queen and hydra are the only 2 that arent 1.3.

    Zergling = 1.3
    Queen = 1.5625
    Hydralisk = 1.5
    Ultralisk = 1.3
    Roach = 1.3
    Baneling = 1.3
    (I think) Infested Terran = 1.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilice View Post
    Yeah, look at the queen and you will se that it is quite obvious.
    Yeah, it does make sense, but I never thought of it, cause they stated that it will be 30% so I just thought it would be 30% for every unit.
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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Queen and IT could very well just be the two exceptions since they're so ridiculously slow off creep.

    TRD, where did you get those numbers from? Each of those is the exact bonus in speed right? Not a multiplication factor? It seems odd the value for the queen is so close to the hydra's.
    Do you know how the speed upgrades (ling/roach) work in regards to the creep buff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    Queen and IT could very well just be the two exceptions since they're so ridiculously slow off creep.

    TRD, where did you get those numbers from? Each of those is the exact bonus in speed right? Not a multiplication factor? It seems odd the value for the queen is so close to the hydra's.
    Do you know how the speed upgrades (ling/roach) work in regards to the creep buff?
    Watched Latest Crota's Video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1WF5...os=JtR3zWIbXSo part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1JG2TfQk part 2

    When you put your cursor on the unit armor, it shows their speed(+their bonus speed from Creep). So Roach got 3 speed with upgrade(+0,9 which is 30%), but Hydra got 2,25(+1,12 which is 50%), so I get that they don't have the same bonus, and never thought of Queen but yes, that is a lot more than 30%. All in all, it does make sense, Hydras are so slow off the Creep and are with reasonable speed on the Creep with how much damage they do. Also we never tested ITs, but I guess they could maybe have the greater bonus on the Creep, just like the Queen or Hydras? Since they are slow as Queen is off the Creep.
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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Okay cool. Never checked the tooltip

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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Moved to the strategy forum.

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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    Queen and IT could very well just be the two exceptions since they're so ridiculously slow off creep.

    TRD, where did you get those numbers from? Each of those is the exact bonus in speed right? Not a multiplication factor? It seems odd the value for the queen is so close to the hydra's.
    Do you know how the speed upgrades (ling/roach) work in regards to the creep buff?
    I got the numbers from the editor, and since the units themselves have the % bonus (1.3 is the same as 30% bonus).
    Base zergling speed - 2.9531
    Creep speed bonus - 30% = .88 (resulting in speed ~3.8)
    Metabolic boost increase - 1.746 (resulting in a speed of ~4.7)
    Upgraded creep speed bonus - 30% of new speed = 1.41 (resulting in speed 6.11)

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    Default Re: The % Speed on the Creep?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    Queen and IT could very well just be the two exceptions since they're so ridiculously slow off creep.

    TRD, where did you get those numbers from? Each of those is the exact bonus in speed right? Not a multiplication factor? It seems odd the value for the queen is so close to the hydra's.
    Do you know how the speed upgrades (ling/roach) work in regards to the creep buff?
    IT get the bonus of 30% on the creep. Interestingly they have the same off creep speed as Queens.

    Also, the boost the Quens get is not 1.56 * their speed (.94), but 1.56+ .94, evidenced by a test in the editor. This makes Queens true bonus 2.65, more than double their original speed.

    All the others are multipliers, however.

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