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  1. #81

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    It wouldn't surprise me if Duran was actually testing Raynor or something.....
    Dude, we were given the "reason": Alarak stated that Nyon had gone insane from harvesting terrazine. The writers didn't consider from the outset the overarching story where the Tal'Darim were concerned.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

  2. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Dude, we were given the "reason": Alarak stated that Nyon had gone insane from harvesting terrazine. The writers didn't consider from the outset the overarching story where the Tal'Darim were concerned.
    You think that happened with all his followers as well?

  3. #83

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    You think that happened with all his followers as well?
    Potentially. Also keep in mind the Chain of Ascension, which would retroactively explain Nyon's force's continued loyalty to him. These Tal'Darim may have even been "exiled" from the main body, stripped of their black-and-red standard, and are attempting to regain lost honor through their post (but this is pure conjecture).
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Potentially. Also keep in mind the Chain of Ascension, which would retroactively explain Nyon's force's continued loyalty to him. These Tal'Darim may have even been "exiled" from the main body, stripped of their black-and-red standard, and are attempting to regain lost honor through their post (but this is pure conjecture).
    Possibly. If they want to expand the lore, perhaps we could get to learn a bit more on terrazine as well. For example, it's possible that Nyon wasn't insane by the time he and his troops were sent to guard the artifact pieces. However, the terrazine composition on Bel'Shir was different from than on Slayn, and had a different effect, and THAT is what drove him insane.

  5. #85

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    the terrazine composition on Bel'Shir was different from than on Slayn, and had a different effect, and THAT is what drove him insane.
    I wonder about that. It's stated that Terrazine is a gas that comes from the Void, so I'd think its composition would be homogenous regardless of its origins. Of course, it could have some interaction with the local fauna and flora of a location. It's also produced from Jarban Gliders, which makes me wonder whether these creatures actually originate from the Void, or somehow have some psionic sensitivity that allows them to produce Terrazine.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

  6. #86

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    I didn't think it really came from the gliders. More like they got exposed to them, and the terrazine got into their system and then somehow used it as a reproduction center or something.

  7. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    Not everything is meant to explained in a 100% rational manner.
    You are deflecting criticism. Rationality is a key foundation of meaningful conflict. The conflict in SC does not stand up to scrutiny because it operates on Metzen's author fiat rather than an organic exploration of the premises. Its over-reliance on plot contrivances for all major plot points is not a good thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Potentially. Also keep in mind the Chain of Ascension, which would retroactively explain Nyon's force's continued loyalty to him. These Tal'Darim may have even been "exiled" from the main body, stripped of their black-and-red standard, and are attempting to regain lost honor through their post (but this is pure conjecture).
    A recurring problem with the SC story is that the writers ignore the existence of people outside the main cast, so characters bring their armies with them without any difficulty. Like Duke convincing Alpha Squadron to defect to the Sons of Korhal after they rescue him from the zerg, even though this is treason and Confederate marines are brainwashed for loyalty to the Confederacy. That this scenario is even possible makes the Confederacy look impossibly incompetent, especially considering all the evil stuff they pulled off prior without a hitch like the mass brainwashing, nuking population centers, poisoning the fringe worlds with "cholera" to conceal zerg activity, testing all toddlers for psychic powers and kidnapping candidates for the Ghost Program, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    I wonder about that. It's stated that Terrazine is a gas that comes from the Void, so I'd think its composition would be homogenous regardless of its origins. Of course, it could have some interaction with the local fauna and flora of a location. It's also produced from Jarban Gliders, which makes me wonder whether these creatures actually originate from the Void, or somehow have some psionic sensitivity that allows them to produce Terrazine.
    It's space magic technobabble that Blizzard pulled out of nowhere. It doesn't make sense and isn't supposed to.

  8. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mislagnissa View Post
    It's space magic technobabble that Blizzard pulled out of nowhere. It doesn't make sense and isn't supposed to.
    Once again this is just another one of your "Everything in terms of SC lore is BS." Makes me really wonder how many people would look at it from your POV if you won't give the slightest thought to another.

  9. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    Once again this is just another one of your "Everything in terms of SC lore is BS." Makes me really wonder how many people would look at it from your POV if you won't give the slightest thought to another.
    It's an exotic space drug with mutagenic effects on living things, and isn't the first such drug to appear in the lore (jorium is another). We don't need to know more than that.

  10. #90

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    So you think. Terrazine has enough lore to expand on and to give more story. Jorium on the other hand could use more explaining though.

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