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Thread: How you suppose the breeds of the extended Zerg swarms are composed?

  1. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolanstar View Post
    There's really no mathematical basis for this without the mass of any class of battlecruiser, its maximum thrust. Mass of something like a Thor or Ultra as comparison and benchmark. I'm just making guesses by comparing dimensions and taking into account zerg biology op-ness.
    Why use a Thor? Those things are way tinier compared to the BC

  2. #142

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    Comparison, its relatively boxy and easy to get dimensions from for things like neosteel and other terran material mass.

  3. #143

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    Figures. I'll need to see the scale of the Thor and the BC side to side then

  4. #144

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    Robears Size chart. Just open it in a photo editor and drag them.

    On another note, I've wrote a bunch of stories over the years, some effectively fanfics and some original. I've been tempted to post them lately. Should I? (Not the original stuff, that stays with me for now)

  5. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolanstar View Post
    Robears Size chart. Just open it in a photo editor and drag them.

    On another note, I've wrote a bunch of stories over the years, some effectively fanfics and some original. I've been tempted to post them lately. Should I? (Not the original stuff, that stays with me for now)
    I didn't know you wrote such stories. Do you have a fanfiction.net account? Because I'm on that site daily looking for fics. After HotS's release, SC fic activity plummeted.

  6. #146

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    I've been thinking more about new concepts for broods and breeds. To keep everyone on the same page, I decided to use specific jargon.

    Zerg "strains" (telepathic ranking)

    I would adopt the zerg hierarchy used by Leovaunt's StarCraft RPG. It divides the zerg into mastermind, commander, specialist and minion. In canon brief mention is made of "alpha zerg" being a terran label for cerebrates and queens, so I decided to combine that with the Leovaunt ranks to create an in-universe designation.

    Alpha zerg are those who lead hive clusters, broods, swarms, etc. They include canonical breeds such as the overmind shell, cerebrate, brood mother, etc. They are named for both their position and the fact that they produce alpha waves like terran ghosts do.

    Beta zerg are the secondary agents relied on by alpha zerg to relay orders to other zerg. They include canonical breeds such as overlords, queens, infestors and variants thereof. Beta zerg are at least as intelligent as humans and are capable of holding conversations. Beta zerg may command any gamma and delta zerg, but in practice only relay commands to breeds relevant to their tasks (e.g. queens commanding drones, overlords commanding zerglings, infestors commanding infested terrans).

    Gamma zerg are the rank and file minions. They include laborers like the drones, warriors like the zerglings and hydralisks. They answer to the commands of beta zerg. Some gamma breeds, such as locusts and broodlings, respond to the commands of sub-beta zerg.

    Delta zerg are more intelligent than gamma zerg, but not necessarily to the degree of beta zerg. Some delta zerg are sub-beta, meaning that they can relay commands to specific breeds of gamma zerg. Delta zerg include canonical breeds like defilers, swarm hosts and brood lords.

    Zerg "fireflies"
    The "fireflies" are an idea I had after reading about various concepts from the SC2 beta that were ultimately scrapped. Zerg fireflies are ubiquitous organisms which serve a variety of roles within hive clusters, and are conceptually similar to Scrin buzzers from Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars. Firefly swarms may garrison zerg structures or larger breeds like ultralisks to provide defense, produced by firefly colonies as ammunition, or deployed directly on the battlefield as support canon fodder.

    Mind worms
    Inspired by the mind worms from Alpha Centauri. Zerg mind worms are a variant of larvae which have offensive psychic powers due to added human psychic genetics. This allows them to disable larger creatures long enough to burrow into their bodies and kill them. They might function similar to, or be the same as, the fireflies mentioned above.

  7. #147

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    On a personal note, I tend to view scrapped units as canon when possible, just being rarer then the contemporary game units. Somewhat supported by what happened to the SC:Ghost units and model re-usage. So the "fireflies" above being the swarm infestation from the queens in SC2 Development. or the in-editor model equivalent.

  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolanstar View Post
    On a personal note, I tend to view scrapped units as canon when possible, just being rarer then the contemporary game units. Somewhat supported by what happened to the SC:Ghost units and model re-usage. So the "fireflies" above being the swarm infestation from the queens in SC2 Development. or the in-editor model equivalent.
    Some of the SC Ghost units already have become canon in the SC universe. Look at the Grizzly, it got its spot in the SC Ghost Spectres book

  9. #149

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    That's kinda my point. Given how I said it was supported by the SC:Ghost units. Blizzard having them show up in other stuff means they exist - and if they exist, whats wrong with some of the weirder things being prototypes, defunct strains or exotic ships made by a specific tribe? Heck, theres even lore for some like the Nomad.

  10. #150

    Default Re: How you suppose the breeds of the extended Zerg swarms are composed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolanstar View Post
    That's kinda my point. Given how I said it was supported by the SC:Ghost units. Blizzard having them show up in other stuff means they exist - and if they exist, whats wrong with some of the weirder things being prototypes, defunct strains or exotic ships made by a specific tribe? Heck, theres even lore for some like the Nomad.
    I don't recall the Nomad lore, what did it say?

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