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    Alright, I've finally got some time and a faint spark of interest (which with a lot of patience, work, and optimism, I can kindle into a somewhat self-sustaining flare of something approaching a fuck to give.) So, based on this thread, I may give it a shot.



    Rest In Peace, Old Friend.

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    Considering that you still don't seem to be convinced the Zerg could ever change into something else, I'm unsure if you'll find the read worth it.

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    Oh god, this book...

    Spoilers:

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    Is anybody else bothered by the fact that Uvula needs to gain access to telekinetic Ghosts, implying Protoss -- the most psionically powerful species in the galaxy -- can't move shit with their minds?

    Nobody?

    Okay, then.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Oh god, this book...

    Spoilers:

    Hidden Content:
    Is anybody else bothered by the fact that Uvula needs to gain access to telekinetic Ghosts, implying Protoss -- the most psionically powerful species in the galaxy -- can't move shit with their minds?

    Nobody?

    Okay, then.
    Wow, that sucks...

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    Ah, sure, a lot of "lore holes". All of them can be fixed by saying "we don't have the whole picture" or "it was just the character's perspective".

    Seems Zahn isn't super familiar with SC lore. He knew most of what he needed to know, though.

    The plot holes are also there.

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    If Ulavu never lied, how did he spend so many years without anyone asking him "what's your exact chaste"?

    The mission took several hours. Why didn't both Protoss and Terran ask for reinforcements, as they were obviously running low on people? The Hyperion only took three hours to get ready.

    etc




    But overall, I'm very happy with where they're taking the lore. I just hope they keep up to the potential of it.

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    well Uvula did say that protoss telekinesis is different, at least i remember him saying something like that

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    To keep myself from having an aneurysm, I head canon'd the situation as, "The Protoss want to see if Ghosts can use this in the field as a good will gesture from the Protoss," and Uvula likes playing fetch with Terrans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    Oh god, this book...

    Spoilers:

    Hidden Content:
    Is anybody else bothered by the fact that Uvula needs to gain access to telekinetic Ghosts, implying Protoss -- the most psionically powerful species in the galaxy -- can't move shit with their minds?

    Nobody?

    Okay, then.
    I really didn't understand that. I had originally thought virtually all the Protoss had that ability. Granted I don't think we really got to see it, but that retcon was plain BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TcheQuevara View Post
    Ah, sure, a lot of "lore holes". All of them can be fixed by saying "we don't have the whole picture" or "it was just the character's perspective".

    Seems Zahn isn't super familiar with SC lore. He knew most of what he needed to know, though.

    The plot holes are also there.

    Hidden Content:

    If Ulavu never lied, how did he spend so many years without anyone asking him "what's your exact chaste"?

    The mission took several hours. Why didn't both Protoss and Terran ask for reinforcements, as they were obviously running low on people? The Hyperion only took three hours to get ready.

    etc


    The Q here is would people have BOTHERED asking him about the caste, though you can argue this is just plain lazy.

    Now, as for asking for reinforcements, this is the part Zahn got right in that both the Daelaam and the Dominion military are still in a terrible state, despite 6 years have passed since Amon's defeat in LotV. It's a hell of a lot better than what we got in WoL, in the Dominion rebuilt so quickly after what was done in BW.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoar View Post
    well Uvula did say that protoss telekinesis is different, at least i remember him saying something like that
    How? All you need to do is move an object, it seems simple enough.

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    What he wished was for me to find and identify a Dominion ghost of a specific psionic power. Tanya clenched her teeth. So she hadn’t been a friend to him, or even an unknowing information source. All she’d been was some sort of high-stakes door prize. Let me guess. Something that had rarely been seen before, maybe? Like pyrokinesis? Ulavu inclined his head to the side. No. For a second Tanya thought she’d misunderstood. No? No, he said reluctantly. I was sent to locate and befriend a telekinetic. Tanya felt as if the floor had just been pulled out from under her. She hadn’t even been a door prize? What are you talking about? There are two teeks in the program right now. What was wrong with them? He was silent so long that she started to wonder if she’d lost contact. I did not wish them as friends, he said at last. They are not… good souls. And now he was going to presume to judge all of humanity? This just got better and better. They are perfectly acceptable souls, she shot back. Are they? She scowled. No, damn it all, they really weren’t. Glistrup was manic depressive and a compulsive liar, while Mai was just an all-around mean person. No one liked them. Still, they were competent enough teeks, if somewhat low-power. So what did you want with them? The protoss have developed a new weapon, Ulavu said evasively. Of only minor tactical use, but of interest to a number of us. It was hoped a terran telekinetic would be useful in its deployment, as the human version of that ability carries unique characteristics not found in protoss. We wished to explore what could be achieved through a partnership with such a terran.
    Chapter 14
    Zahn, Timothy. StarCraft: Evolution (pp. 192-193). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

    there went and found the quote, would have liked him to elaborate a little more about the difference but there it is

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