Diablo 3, is it really gonna be good?

[sandwich_bird]

So what do you think?

Imo it won't beat the success of his predecessors. The game is so old school and without much depth, I believe it will just be over eclipsed by every other popular game that will be released when he'll be out. Indeed, what's new in this game compared to every other rpg? Nothing! In fact, I think the franchise lost more than it gained. Yay a new graphic engine! But what is it good for if they changed the overall art direction (no I won't start the debate again) and so completely lost the diablo feel. Even the new Diablo look is weaker than the original. Instead of looking like a demon, the new Diablo looks like a burning hydralisk. The cinematic trailer is so cheesy compared to this one



Which is way more dramatic and "disturbing". The music is also more dramatic in the D2 trailer. They tried too much to get all epic with the DIII trailer and by doing so lost sight of what is Diablo.

The "new" classes are really a disappointment to me as well. I mean I go on D2 fan sites and most people come up with so much more interesting and original ideas than a freaking wizard or a monk.

The only real reasons why it will sell is because of how much people loved the first and 2nd one (which were pretty good for their time) and because WoW players will be interested in it. The staff doesn't really look interested in the project either (except bashiok of course, this guy is awesome but then again he isn’t really working on the project either). Just read this interview http://www.planetdiablo.com/features...09/index.shtml. The guy sounds so bored of the game. It doesn’t seem like the development is going anywhere.

[screw_ball69]

Diablo, much like pizza and sex, even when its bad, its still good.

[Blazur]

Diablo3 is gonna rock, no doubt. Just hope they can come up with some variety in their classes and not fall back on commonly used abilities.

[n00bonicPlague]

I've never played any of the diablo games, but by looking at D3's trailer and comparing it to D2's, the latter looks legitimately dark and forboding, while the former looks like some cheap, cheesy, asspull, final fantasy bullshit. I mean listen to this: "I don't think it's safe here." Could you choose anything lamer than that?

EDIT: Found this on youtube......

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[Norfindel]

RPG? That's insulting... Where's the interaction and player choice? It would be much more accurate to say it's a hack and slash game. For RPGs go to Bethesda.


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[Visions of Khas]

Even the new Diablo look is weaker than the original.

I for one really like the new Diablo. It seems more alien and terrifying, not bending to our common conception of the Devil. Lore-wise, I think its new graceful figure derives from the fact that Leah de Soto is used as the host for the remnants of the essence of the Three. A female Diablo? That's something different.

The Diablo 3 cinematic attempts to feature a broader, more epic setting than the previous Diablos. D1 and D2 focused on just a handful of warriors taking on the Burning Hells. These skirmishes were so small that the greater world still believes they never took place. I think D3 will bring it the greater part of Sanctuary into the conflict.

[DemolitionSquid]

D3, not epic?

This is blasphemy!
This is madness!

Madness?

THIS

IS

SANCTUARY!

*kicks sandwich_bird into The Pit*

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Seriously though, your memory of D2 is a joke. It was extremely vibrant and bright. The skill system was full of weak and unused skills. The classes overlapped. The stat system was broken. The economy was broken. You actually had to exit the game and visit a website to make a viable character.

D3 is going to fix the numerous flaws of D2, and bring the game back to D1's gory glory.

[Xyvik]

RPG? That's insulting... Where's the interaction and player choice? It would be much more accurate to say it's a hack and slash game. For RPGs go to Bethesda.


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Pfft. Bethesda can't do RPGs right either, unless of course you're primarily a console player and didn't notice how Oblivion and Fallout 3 were royally screwed over by a massive lack of depth.

Hack n Slash is a good part of "lite-RPG" fair and one I actually enjoy. I do not, however, enjoy Diablo. Any game that uses an iteration of the tired old story of "hey look, it's the Devil and Hell, let's kill 'em!" is instantly relegated to the trash heap of my collection. That, and I could just never get into it easily. Maybe it's because I came to it late and it never worked properly on my computer.

And yes, I am now prepared to be burned to a crisp.

[n00bonicPlague]

RPG? That's insulting... Where's the interaction and player choice? It would be much more accurate to say it's a hack and slash game. For RPGs go to Bethesda.

I think the term was being used loosely.

It is an RPG in that you choose a role to play, but it's not the traditional turn-based RPG.

Pfft. Bethesda can't do RPGs right either, unless of course you're primarily a console player and didn't notice how Oblivion and Fallout 3 were royally screwed over by a massive lack of depth.

Hack n Slash is a good part of "lite-RPG" fair and one I actually enjoy. I do not, however, enjoy Diablo. Any game that uses an iteration of the tired old story of "hey look, it's the Devil and Hell, let's kill 'em!" is instantly relegated to the trash heap of my collection. That, and I could just never get into it easily. Maybe it's because I came to it late and it never worked properly on my computer.

And yes, I am now prepared to be burned to a crisp.

lol, it's all good. I think it's just a matter of story-line taste. A game with such a straight-forward story will be a nice thing for those who must be getting pretty tired of the average modern RPG (where the whiny emo Billy Derangashai must restore the Ethereal Light to the Seven Shards of Kozal lest the metrosexual evil lord Diminytus Maxium take control of the Five Dimensions of Slavantiosa, yet he is doomed to discover that the crazy-hot Queen Shaskanai is his mother and that he is the heir of Slavantiosa and brother of Sarah Chabloski — the girl he just slept with last night).

Sometimes people just need a simple story where they can go kill the devil.
It provides an escape from their overcomplicated lives,
while the average RPG is an escape for those with boring lives.

[sandwich_bird]

D3, not epic?

This is blasphemy!
This is madness!

Madness?

THIS

IS

SANCTUARY!

*kicks sandwich_bird into The Pit*

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Seriously though, your memory of D2 is a joke. It was extremely vibrant and bright. The skill system was full of weak and unused skills. The classes overlapped. The stat system was broken. The economy was broken. You actually had to exit the game and visit a website to make a viable character.

D3 is going to fix the numerous flaws of D2, and bring the game back to D1's gory glory.

You do have some points there, DII was far from perfect. Another good example would be how repetitive the quests were. Most of the time, the only stuff you were supposed to do was go kill someone or go get something (or of course kill someone to get something). They did say they were gonna improve on this as well in DIII. Even with all his flaws though, DII was great. I guess screw_ball69 is right.

Though I still firmly reject Diablo's look.

I for one really like the new Diablo. It seems more alien and terrifying, not bending to our common conception of the Devil. Lore-wise, I think its new graceful figure derives from the fact that Leah de Soto is used as the host for the remnants of the essence of the Three. A female Diablo? That's something different.

Alien? Yes indeed but more terrifying? I don't know... I don't believe they should go away from our conception of the Devil. An alien Diablo just doesn't feel right for me. Then again, we didn't see much of the new Diablo. Maybe when you really see him as a whole you get that Devil feeling a bit more.