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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Hey, sorry for disappearing like that. I got super busy during the holidays, and then sort of never came back. To be honest, my interest in posting here is pretty heavily linked to my passion for...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    You haven't established how the Zerg are supposed to not be a threat without Kerrigan. They certainly were before Kerrigan.



    It's what ties the entire narrative together.



    When I say...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    You're the one trying to justify Mengsk's attack on the basis that this would somehow harm the Zerg, I,m pointing out that even that assumption is dubious.



    Exactly what I said.



    I just...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    But they're not really without Kerrigan... she still exists and has some measure of control over the Zerg, but she's no longer their 'overmind'. It's an unprecedented situation and the Zerg would not...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Your hypothetical also works in the reverse direction though. We have precedent for a Swarm leader dying and being replaced, but not for what happened to Kerrigan. It might be that the situation is...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Don't know about that, Kerrigan took over when the Overmind died, so another Queen might have taken over after Kerrigan got deinfested (or Mengsk killed her). This is actually the plotline I wish...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    What does that change? The Overmind is dead and the Zerg haven't stopped being a threat.



    Do you really need me to explain to you that being a faction's prisoner and being a faction's ruler are...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    You mean like the Overmind's death ensured that the Zerg were never a hindrance again?



    It's stretching quite a bit to compare that with Mengsk being "associated" with the Dominion.


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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    It's not like the Zerg were doing anything to hinder him before he attacked the Umojan station either. In fact, he'd finally started to clear out Char itself.



    I understand that. But I don't...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    You're arguing that mengsk considers Raynor to be a greater threat than the Zerg because he's 'pragmatic'?



    Very well then, I don't feel that you've justified Mengsk attacking a Umojan station...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    We're talking about a guy who has a speech that goes "Our long nightmare is over, this rebel guy is dead, Oh, and also, in other news the Zerg are defeated." And the first news broadcast from Wings...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    I would certainly not assume that Mengsk is 'pragmatic', not at all. Never mind the fact that I already disagreed with that assessment back in StarCraft, Mengsk's irrational obsession with Raynor...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    No. Kerrigan was defeated and taken by Terran forces. Mengsk does not attack the Zerg Swarm in that moment, he is attacking the Umojan Protectorate. Even if you were to argue against Kerrigan/the...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Her initial intent for "starting" the war was that Mengsk sent a fleet of Battlecruisers to try to kill her and murdered her allies and loved ones. Again, I'm not seeing how injustices don't count if...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    I agree. However, within the context of the StarCraft series, I believe it is well within the standards established by other conflicts that have been coded as 'just', aside from fighting against...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Oh, I agree, but again this doesn't show up in any way in the game. No psionically based unit, no apparent psionic upgrades in the Swarm, not even a mention anywhere of the Overmind getting anything...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Unfortunately, it's in the nature of deus ex machinas to come out of nowhere, and therefore cannot be planned for. If you want to "prepare for the unexpected", then such a thing is as viable whether...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Yes, I do think it's far more unreasonable to expect her to go the Ghost route. For one thing, everything since Brood War has been quite clear that the Zerg are infinitely powerful, so there's...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    The issue isn't that it's impossible for Kerrigan to assassinate Mengsk, the issue is that it's unreasonable. As we've agreed, Mengsk is incredibly well defended against such an attack, and the odds...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    That is correct, I am.



    Yes, it is unreasonable. Kerrigan may be trained in knowing how such a program would be used, but Mengsk will be preparing for her attack. Specifically her attack,...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    So you're saying a character's expressed motivation is discarded without ever being addressed or mentioned because its circumstances have clearly changed? If only you knew how often I have argued as...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    I mean, I want to say that's true, but fans are clearly willing to go a certain distance to justify the actions of their characters. If you'll allow me to combine some of your post in the same reply,...
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Done.

    EDIT: To clarify, I mean that I believe and state that Kerrigan is a mass-murdering psychopath.
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    Re: [Spoilers] Gradius's LoTV Thoughts

    Oh, that's the real reason, but I've provided the in-story reason as well. I've also provided a list of other missions that were created out of similarly flimsy pretexts.



    No, that's not the...
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    Didn't connect with anything for me. It's not like it's clearly wrong, either. I can't figure out exactly why I can't get this guy at all.

    The fact that there's apparently someone who wrote a...
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