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topsecret221
10-26-2012, 04:12 PM
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7004440896


We will be bringing the beta down this afternoon to make the following balance changes. Thanks again for all the great feedback you've provided while testing Heart of the Swarm. We hope to see you testing these changes and sharing your input soon!

Protoss

Oracle
The Phase Shield and Entomb abilities have been removed.
This unit has a new ability called Pulsar Beam.
The Oracle channels a beam at an enemy structure that deals 25 damage every second.
2 mana is drained per second from the Oracle while this ability is channeled.
This ability has a range of 5.
This unit has a new ability called Time Warp.
The Oracle creates a temporal field that slows all ground units’ movement speed within a 3.5 radius by 50%.
This ability costs 75 energy to cast
This ability can be cast from 9 range.
Oracle build time has decreased from 60 to 35 seconds.

Tempest
Damage has been increased from 25 to 30.
The +massive damage bonus no longer requires an upgrade at the Fleet Beacon.
+Massive damage has been decreased from 35 to 30.

Mothership Core
This unit has a new ability called Envision.
This ability grants the Mothership Core detection for 30 seconds.
This ability costs 50 energy to cast.
This ability grants detection within the Mothership Core’s sight range (14).
The Purify ability no longer grants detection to the Nexus.
The Purify ability has been renamed to “Photon Overcharge”.


Zerg

Ultralisk
The speed of Burrow Charge has been increased from 2.25 to 3.75.

Viper
The duration of Blinding Cloud has been increased from 10 to 14 seconds.

Spine Crawler
This unit now completely blocks pathing when placed next to other structures, including other Spine Crawlers.
Zerglings and other small units can no longer squeeze in between Spine Crawlers.
The scale of this unit has been increased from 0.85 to 0.95.


Terran

Hellion
Transformation to Hellbat no longer requires an upgrade and is enabled once an Armory is built.

Nothing I dislike in particular. Still want them to make Evolution Chambers a prerequisite for the Spore Crawler.

Caliban113
10-26-2012, 04:28 PM
Concerned the Oracle now has an ability along the lines of the Void Ray attack - interested to see how that pans out.

I like the spore crawler change.

...and the Widow mine missiles stayed in, eh? - ummm, ok then.....

Carsickness
10-26-2012, 04:40 PM
Cool patch! I love the recent focus on Protoss.

The tempest and oracle changes are interesting, and should actually allow toss to go a third tech path (robo/twilight/ and now stargate).

And having another form of detection with out forcing robo is a much needed change :).

Thanks blizzard!

Hawki
10-26-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm reluctant to comment on multiplayer stuff, but looking at the Oracle, I have to ask...what is it? I mean, it's gone from an economy harrasser to a void ray/sentry hybrid unit as far as I can tell. By the end of development it'll probably have more cut abilities than the entire protoss tech tree.:(

Carsickness
10-26-2012, 05:12 PM
it's gone from an economy harrasser to a void ray/sentry hybrid unit(

I agree. But I feel it's for the better. It gives players another option now, instead of something that just sits there waiting to be activated.

Pulsar beam I can see being used either for a sneak attack, or better yet something to mix in with an early attack. I'm thinking in conjunction with gateway units to break a Terran bunker defence.

Usually the option would be to place force fields behind the bunkers to prevent SCVs from repairing. We've all seen this a million times.
But now, with a few oracles mixed in, you can just dps the crap out of the bunkers.

Obviously time warp is a game changer, which is exactly what I would expect from an expansion. Again, giving a toss player a different option when choosing their tech of choice.

Edit:
Here's a video showing off the Protoss changes:

scSiTKnzSDY

DemolitionSquid
10-26-2012, 11:24 PM
The fact I have nothing bad to say about any of these changes terrifies me to my very core. The only thing I'm usure of is Pulsar Beam cause... Void Ray much?

RamiZ
10-27-2012, 03:06 AM
The fact I have nothing bad to say about any of these changes terrifies me to my very core. The only thing I'm usure of is Pulsar Beam cause... Void Ray much?

They said that they will change the Void Ray, since Oracle now has basically the same attack vs. buildings and Tempest completely replace the Void Ray in every possible way.

I love all of the changes except one, and that is Oracle build time. It went from 60 to 35? I mean, for such unit, 35 is really low, maybe go for 40-45 or something like that? I mean, Protoss has Chronoboost, it comes out really damn fast.

Really good patch, love Ultra buff. :D

Hawki
10-27-2012, 03:16 AM
They said that they will change the Void Ray, since Oracle now has basically the same attack vs. buildings and Tempest completely replace the Void Ray in every possible way.

So, er...they're looking for units to fill the void then?:D

topsecret221
10-27-2012, 04:45 AM
So, er...they're looking for units to fill the void then?:D

Oh... Oh God, the pun...

RamiZ
10-27-2012, 10:19 AM
So, er...they're looking for units to fill the void then?:D

Literally. ;D

DemolitionSquid
10-27-2012, 12:41 PM
Would that be the void in our Hearts, the void between Kerrigan's legs, or the Void in Dustin Browder's head?

Heyo.

Pr0nogo
10-27-2012, 01:36 PM
Quite a legacy the Void Ray has.

pfft.

These changes don't really address all the issues, nor do they encourage a healthy and varied playstyle, but whatever. None of my concern.

TheProgramer
10-28-2012, 01:42 AM
This patch has made me the saddest of any that have yet come.

Entomb was the #1 thing I was looking forward to in HoTS multiplayer. I never even got to play with it :^(

I liked the idea of it have the ability-based detection on it, rather than the mothership core.

It's new ability TIMEWARP is exciting, but I dont like it's void ray like ability. There's a reason FLUX VANES was removed guys.


But I can't be sadder. I wish Entomb was still in. *cries

RamiZ
10-28-2012, 04:07 AM
This patch has made me the saddest of any that have yet come.

Entomb was the #1 thing I was looking forward to in HoTS multiplayer. I never even got to play with it :^(

I liked the idea of it have the ability-based detection on it, rather than the mothership core.

It's new ability TIMEWARP is exciting, but I dont like it's void ray like ability. There's a reason FLUX VANES was removed guys.


But I can't be sadder. I wish Entomb was still in. *cries
It was somehow unique ability, but it really was one-dimensional and had only one use, and it wasn't even fun to use, nor it was fun for a spectators.

DemolitionSquid
10-28-2012, 01:07 PM
Entomb was bland, thoughtless, boring, easy. It was the Kristen Stewart of the beta.

TheEconomist
10-28-2012, 05:30 PM
First and final warning, Squid. Do not mock Kristin or I will find you.

DemolitionSquid
10-28-2012, 07:14 PM
First and final warning, Squid. Do not mock Kristin or I will find you.

Unless your last name happens to be Neeson, I'm not worried.

http://whatdoumeme.com/media/created/72j3q3.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/8/21/B2KvIJmZP0KV1YFt9Z-WcA2.png

TheEconomist
10-28-2012, 07:31 PM
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

TheEconomist
10-28-2012, 07:34 PM
http://i.qkme.me/3p5dvn.jpg

DemolitionSquid
10-28-2012, 08:13 PM
Fun fact: I'm a distant relative of both Waldo and Carmen Sandiego.

BRING IT.

TheEconomist
10-28-2012, 08:28 PM
http://lookslikegooddesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/af-9.jpeg


Found faster than a pizza delivery.

topsecret221
10-28-2012, 09:35 PM
*grabs popcorn*

This is getting amusing.

DemolitionSquid
10-28-2012, 09:45 PM
*grabs popcorn*

This is getting amusing.

Not really. He found Waldo, not me. I'm still in the wind.

Pr0nogo
10-29-2012, 01:14 AM
R.I.P.

Gradius
10-29-2012, 09:24 AM
Found faster than a pizza delivery.
Just make sure I get to have my turn with him:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Vr8Xl0cbUZA/SUkD6hAFwrI/AAAAAAAAFSs/KcfeUe7e07E/s400/Image+%3D+wheres_waldo+12.jpg

phazonjunkie
10-29-2012, 07:38 PM
Just make sure I get to have my turn with him:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Vr8Xl0cbUZA/SUkD6hAFwrI/AAAAAAAAFSs/KcfeUe7e07E/s400/Image+%3D+wheres_waldo+12.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Po1PwLRJh6g/TdF3iX9gRZI/AAAAAAAAAD4/vwfh1MB_CZA/s1600/cit_vgcats135_rape_is_never_funny.jpg

Remember that Gradius.....

....Ah who am I kidding? Bring out the gimp!