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Spartan13
04-27-2012, 07:11 AM
Which one do you think has the better voice acting?
Leaving the campaign aside and focusing more to unit quotes.

I think Sc1 units(at least most of them that come in mind) have better VA
Ghosts being my best example.
But since this is a subjective matter i'd really like to see what the general consensus is.

Sheliek
04-27-2012, 09:33 AM
I was hoping for another huge essay like the review.

It's hit-or-miss, and I'm definitely focusing on campaign since that's where voice-acting actually matters most. Some VAs in Brood War were most definitely better, such as Tassadar or Kerrigan. Both of their actors in Wings of Liberty left something to be desired (though I will admit Kerrigan's unit quotes are well acted and written. I'm very confused as to where that went in the campaign. Either way, I have my hopes up for Swarm because of it), especially Tassadar's. Artanis' voice is about the same to me, in terms of quality, between both games. Zeratul was godly, but I understand and am sad for why that had to change in Liberty.

I think special credit should go to Duran's actor, however. He did an absolutely wonderful job at coming across as slimy and backstabbing, yet still likable. Hopefully his 'North African' voice comes back at some point in the StarCraft II saga.

As for StarCraft II, to be honest, I actually like Zeratul's new voice actor. He has a fitting voice. Really, it's his cheesy lines that bother me so. Kerrigan's new voice actress has potential to do the character justice, as we saw in her unit lines, so I'm not that annoyed at Blizzard's outright douchiness in how they handled the actors leading up to StarCraft II (it's like it was one or the other: 'Oh, you guys want Glynnis? Okay, no Clotworthy though.' 'Boo!' 'Oh, you want Robert Clotworthy? Okay, but we're firing Glynnis Talken-Campbell now.' '...'). There is no excuse for what happened with Tassadar, however. Michael Gough could have easily come in and done one scene of dialogue, mostly because he is in Diablo III.

As for new characters: Tychus Findlay has an amazing voice. His lines are all acted superbly, and the actual tone and quality of the voice itself is stellar. Proof positive that Blizzard knows good acting when they hear it. Tosh was well acted, if stereotypical. Matt Horner's voice fit his character, but was a bit flat at times (though I suppose that fit his role somewhat). Valerian was snobby, but that makes sense.

As for what we've heard of Heart of the Swarm, I really love Izsha's voice, but that is probably just placeholder dialogue, so I don't have much of an attachment for it.

TheEconomist
04-27-2012, 09:52 AM
We definitely needed another topic about this. Thank you TC.

Spartan13
04-27-2012, 02:52 PM
If my topic is bothering you or you think is against forum rules just report my post.
Spamming doesn't really change anything now does it?

TheEconomist
04-27-2012, 03:01 PM
If my post is bothering you or you think it is against forum rules don't make a topic.
Bitching doesn't really change anything now does it?

Spartan13
04-27-2012, 03:03 PM
Only one of us is bitching right now and i can tell you for sure that it's not me.

TheEconomist
04-27-2012, 06:43 PM
This whole thing never should've gone past my first post. Since I don't want to be the asshole that harasses a new member, let's just drop it.

TheProgramer
04-27-2012, 09:05 PM
I like the effects ont he Protoss's voice better in SC1.

Sheliek
04-27-2012, 11:17 PM
This whole thing never should've gone past my first post. Since I don't want to be the asshole that harasses a new member, let's just drop it.

I'm totally that asshole on another forum I frequent. Someone needs to keep the place intellectually pure, like the good old days. Eternal September principle destroys another quality community, it seems.

broodmywarcraft
04-27-2012, 11:26 PM
Overall, Starcraft 1 hands down.

I miss Jack Ritschel (RIP) and Glennis Tolkein so much :'(

But so many, if not all of the original units sound so much better and more fitting in one than in the sequel.

I liked Tosh, Tychus, and Matt's VA's the most in two.

Turalyon
04-28-2012, 12:19 AM
Are we talking about unit responses and the story dialogue individually or together?

It's a mixed bag if we're looking at the story dialogue alone. In a few instances in WoL, the written material didn't really endear itself too much for any convincing voice acting to even begin...

Pr0nogo
04-28-2012, 10:40 AM
There were very few instances where I wasn't bothered with SCII's voice acting. Read that again; where I wasn't bothered, not where I enjoyed it. I don't recall an enjoyable point in the campaign, voice-acting wise. Their efforts were miserable, and as an amateur voice actor and audio editor myself, I have a firm belief that I could have done a better job on the Protoss (sans Selendis) and Overmind voices.

The Tal'Darim Executor in particular was fucking horrendous. He sounded awful, and I'm sure the intern who voiced him got a bunch of high-fives for his horrific accent job or whatever the fuck he did to make it sound like that. Just plain stupid.

I have to agree with Turalyon here, too, but I'll take it a step further in saying that the dialogue was in dire need of re-writing before any voice acting was to be done.

Sheliek
04-28-2012, 12:34 PM
... I have a firm belief that I could have done a better job on the Protoss (sans Selendis) and Overmind voices.

Proof?

The Tal'Darim Executor in particular was fucking horrendous. He sounded awful, and I'm sure the intern who voiced him got a bunch of high-fives for his horrific accent job or whatever the fuck he did to make it sound like that. Just plain stupid.
Agreed.

senervo
04-28-2012, 07:22 PM
don't want to bring small pet-peeves or whatever but, imo, a lot of general voices and unit responses sort of resounded in your head. if we're specfically adressing actual voices and voice actors i'd say the voice of Karass was one of the few that put any amount of impact into both his quotes and voice, from the protoss side that is. actually, most protoss hero units sounded ok to me. Not every character need 'oomph' but they do need something to make them memorable - individual. Paul Eiding makes a great example of a commanding tone (not a pun...despise puns) and SC 1s Zeratul sounded old, dry, almost vengeful. i know this is a matter where we're supposed to take actual people seriously as an investment in the story but for that to happen solid writing needs to be- alright...sorry, not going to start anything. All in all, i think some talents are alright, some are unmemorable and some make me want to push my own acting-career to a higher point.

Pr0nogo
04-28-2012, 09:01 PM
Proof?

You must have missed this (http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13960).

Check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P8TfO3t3aM) out for a more direct statement, although this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIu0rCvw6CM) also works.

broodmywarcraft
04-28-2012, 10:15 PM
Type in (Insert unit or Hero) quotes on youtube and witness the broken base.

Sheliek
04-29-2012, 12:48 PM
You must have missed this (http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13960).

Check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P8TfO3t3aM) out for a more direct statement, although this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIu0rCvw6CM) also works.

They all sound the same.

Visions of Khas
04-29-2012, 08:22 PM
As for StarCraft II, to be honest, I actually like Zeratul's new voice actor. He has a fitting voice. Really, it's his cheesy lines that bother me so.
I don't mind Zeratul's new actor, but he could have done a better job. The difficulty here is partly in the direction they took Zeratul's character, to a bewildered old man. I almost want to say a Space Deckard Cain. His words are far too drawn out, and Tatasciore just lacks that edge that gave the Zeratul of Brood War a dangerous feeling.

If you wonder what I mean by "edge", refer to this video of Zeratul's quotes from Brood War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLRGnBdcBQ4). You can hear what I mean in "Khas Nala-dah!" and "But we do this for Aiur -- not you." You can hear that sneer that I love so much.

Tatasciore's Zeratul is more platitudinous, as evidenced by this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR4S8SnLmPg). His equivalent is to shout, something the original Zeratul never did. (See 2:18, 2:27.)

Tatasciore approaches that same volume of gravitas in the opening of The Prophecy cinematic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgatL2LQKLI&feature=related). Why they couldn't -- or wouldn't -- maintain that same level is beyond me, but Zeratul would have benefited from it immensely.


When it comes to Tassadar, funnily enough I don't mind having motherfucking Worf portray him. But I still don't know why they couldn't have gotten the original to drop in and voice him.

Turalyon
04-30-2012, 12:58 AM
But I still don't know why they couldn't have gotten the original to drop in and voice him.

Maybe it was because Tassadar's role in WoL was only conceived last minute? I hear that Tassadar's inclusion was only so that people (and Zeratul for that matter) wouldn't question the authenticity of what he actually says. You can see how well that went. :rolleyes:

Crazy_Jonny
04-30-2012, 10:48 AM
It's a mixed bag. I'd say the SC1 voices were 'manlier'. The only voice in SC2 that gave me that vibe was Karass.

The Zerg in SC2 sound pathetic though, I think we can all agree on that.

Amph
05-06-2012, 12:19 PM
yeah exactly, karass is the only good one, does not seem either of starrcfat2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2w53kmNRhg

too bad he is dead...