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TheEconomist
01-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Apparently, they're too busy for free money.

Personally, couldn't care less, but didn't see it up and figured someone somewhere might care.

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/blizzard-is-too-busy-for-blizzcon-this-year-opts-to-skip-it-until-2013/3932/

Turalyon
01-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Good. Now they might actually start releasing some of their games on time for a change :D

DemolitionSquid
01-25-2012, 11:02 PM
Can you even cancel something that was never actually scheduled?

RamiZ
01-26-2012, 06:22 AM
Can you even cancel something that was never actually scheduled?
It wasn't scheduled, but it was meant to be held every year around the same time.

I know your question was probably rhetorical, just felt like I should answer. x)

Alex06
01-26-2012, 08:05 AM
I suppose next BlizzCon will take place during summer 2013. It actually makes sense, I agree with their decision. It gives them time to develop new content to show, such as Titan, Diablo 3's first expansion, Legacy of the Void, and the next WoW expansion, instead of having to come up with content just for the event (Like they did at BlizzCon 2010 for StarCraft II, since they didn't have anything for HotS), which will distract them from developing the actual games.

Gradius
01-26-2012, 10:48 AM
Can't say ill shed any tears.

Equiliari
01-26-2012, 03:17 PM
[...]but it was meant to be held every year around the same time.

According to mr. blue, it was not:

"We didn't have a BlizzCon in 2006 either, and at that time we were really strong on the idea that BlizzCon isn't really supposed to be and doesn't have to be an annual event. Of course then we have it for five straight years in a row... which obviously built some expectation."

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3961516484?page=11#212

Jabber Wookie
01-26-2012, 03:45 PM
I suppose next BlizzCon will take place during summer 2013. It actually makes sense, I agree with their decision. It gives them time to develop new content to show, such as Titan, Diablo 3's first expansion, Legacy of the Void, and the next WoW expansion, instead of having to come up with content just for the event (Like they did at BlizzCon 2010 for StarCraft II, since they didn't have anything for HotS), which will distract them from developing the actual games.

At the pace they've been going lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still developing new content to show for HotS at Blizzcon '13. Diablo 3 is starting to look like a late Q2 early Q3 release, so I bet HotS won't be out until early 2013, in which case I doubt they'll have new content for LotV or the D3 expansion except a few gimmicky things that will probably be scrapped. Then again, that has kept us entertained before... so I guess it wouldn't be too unusual for Blizz.

RamiZ
01-26-2012, 06:04 PM
According to mr. blue, it was not:

"We didn't have a BlizzCon in 2006 either, and at that time we were really strong on the idea that BlizzCon isn't really supposed to be and doesn't have to be an annual event. Of course then we have it for five straight years in a row... which obviously built some expectation."

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3961516484?page=11#212
Well, it obviously didn't when they cancelled it this year. :p

TheEconomist
01-26-2012, 06:24 PM
According to mr. blue, it was not:

"We didn't have a BlizzCon in 2006 either, and at that time we were really strong on the idea that BlizzCon isn't really supposed to be and doesn't have to be an annual event. Of course then we have it for five straight years in a row... which obviously built some expectation."

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3961516484?page=11#212

Makes sense. All of their games in 2006 were released (WoW) or not ready to be announced (D3/SC2). Similiar to today in which, HOTS is not ready and D3 has been shown to death, an MOP is pretty meh for a BlizzCon in and of itself.

But, really, only a fool wouldn't know that the Blizzard Illuminati knows something about the end of the world in 2012 and decided to not even bother since everyone's gonna be dead or killing each other come October. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Caliban113
01-26-2012, 06:43 PM
I agree that Blizzcon just ends up adding time to the release dates. I read D3 is scheduled for Q1 - that cant be right, really?

TheEconomist
01-26-2012, 07:04 PM
Officially, yeah, its still Q1 last I heard. But, there were some snags in Korea and they decided to make some last minute, fairly large changes that'll probably push that back a few months, so Q2 its looking like. Which means Q3 at the earliest :D

LordofAscension
01-26-2012, 07:21 PM
I'm bummed. BlizzCon was definitely one of my favorite experiences every year... :(

Hopefully, I'll be able to make it to Asia. :)

~LoA

Kimera757
01-26-2012, 09:47 PM
Maybe they just won't announce a new game this year.

TheEconomist
01-27-2012, 07:41 AM
Other than the Titan MMO, which is five years from release or more, what could they announce?

RamiZ
01-27-2012, 11:49 AM
Other than the Titan MMO, which is five years from release or more, what could they announce?
I think that with "new game" he had included expansions, so maybe SC2: HOTS? I still hope for SC2: HOTS Beta soon, even though it is highly unlikely. :p

And no, I don't mean Soon™, I mean soon as in a few months.

sandwich_bird
01-27-2012, 12:05 PM
So I guess no Titan announcement this year either...

I guess it make sense for them to not do it though. I mean D3 has to be released before their usual blizzcon date and HotS/MoP should come out around October-December so they wouldn't have much to show off.

RamiZ
01-27-2012, 05:28 PM
So I guess no Titan announcement this year either...

I guess it make sense for them to not do it though. I mean D3 has to be released before their usual blizzcon date and HotS/MoP should come out around October-December so they wouldn't have much to show off.
I hope you are right... ;)

hyde
01-30-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm glad they canceled it, better that not whore/exploit their fan base and show nothing.
YES, I know some fans would pay just go, but with their current line up - I don't think they'll have anything to show.

My personal speculation - With the Diablo 3 exec producer's exit from Blizzard and the recent news surrounding the major changes to Diablo 3, I wouldn't be surprised if the game is going under another delay. It seems like the game is experiencing "Duke Nukem Forever", that is a perpetual state of development hell.
The game, as stated by Blizzard, was cancelled/restarted once Bill Roper and friends left. The game, by my play experience in the beta, has some very bland or forced in core game mechanics (please don't argue about how it's only level 10, the core mechanics is still in the beta).

Titan is probably still 12-18 months away from "formal revealing", HOTS is well just fine and going, and Panderia Expansion is nothing too insane - I don't see any reason to host a Blizzcon. It's better they hold back on it than to have a mediocre event IMO. When SC2 launched, I started to have my doubts about Blizzard as a company - even more when I got invited to the Diablo 3 beta. But with their recent commitment to Diablo 3 quality and some horrid experiences with Bioware/SWTOR, you never realize how good something is until you're on the otherside.

I have faith in Blizzard that they made the right choice in not hosting Blizzcon this year.

TheEconomist
01-30-2012, 07:54 PM
please don't argue about how it's only level 10, the core mechanics is still in the beta

Actually, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Spend 10 minutes on DiabloFans.com and you'll see just how much is missing.

There was even a blue post when the beta first started listing numerous things that aren't in the beta, in response to opinions similar to yours.


It seems like the game is experiencing "Duke Nukem Forever", that is a perpetual state of development hell.

Diablo 3 has had less delays and is closer to release than StarCraft II was when it kept getting delayed, and, yet, StarCraft II was released.

hyde
01-31-2012, 06:18 PM
Actually, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Spend 10 minutes on DiabloFans.com and you'll see just how much is missing.

There was even a blue post when the beta first started listing numerous things that aren't in the beta, in response to opinions similar to yours.



Diablo 3 has had less delays and is closer to release than StarCraft II was when it kept getting delayed, and, yet, StarCraft II was released.

True on the Diablo 3 comment to an extent, but not as badly as you claim it to be. It's pretty much from beta feed back on why that stupid nephalem cube and skill mechanic was removed from the game.

For SC2, it's arguable for the development hell, but SC2 was never "restarted" nor was the team forced to relocate or quit. Now with the Diablo 3 executive producer leaving along with core game mechanics being removed - I'm starting to worry. SC2's development delay was understandable given the "reboot" of Battle.net.

Oh well, I'm pretty occupied with BF3/SWTOR to even care anymore. It'll be done when it's done :)

TheEconomist
01-31-2012, 08:32 PM
It's pretty much from beta feed back on why that stupid nephalem cube and skill mechanic was removed from the game.

That's about 3% of what was mentioned.


SC2 was never "restarted" nor was the team forced to relocate or quit

The original was restarted and it made it. WC3 was rebooted more than any other game, and it made it. StarCraft 2 was started, then stopped, then restarted. The same idea as a reboot given the engine changes. Diablo 3 was rebooted because the original team left but not since then.

The bottom line is that Diablo 3's problem should be nothing new a Blizzard follower, and, are, in fact, arguably less servere than past games.

mikill
02-01-2012, 07:57 PM
LOL, that is all I have to say.

hyde
02-02-2012, 01:14 AM
That's about 3% of what was mentioned.



The original was restarted and it made it. WC3 was rebooted more than any other game, and it made it. StarCraft 2 was started, then stopped, then restarted. The same idea as a reboot given the engine changes. Diablo 3 was rebooted because the original team left but not since then.

The bottom line is that Diablo 3's problem should be nothing new a Blizzard follower, and, are, in fact, arguably less servere than past games.

Dude, Diablo 3 started development after Diablo 2 Expansion (2001).
Bill Roper and friends left in 2003, you're telling me that isn't "development hell"?

The reboots for WC3 and SC1 were totally different from this, the team was not "told to move", an entire studio was shut down. While you are right about many of the Blizzard games going through dramatic changes, its quite obvious from what's happening in Diablo 3 (you could say a second reboot). Diablo 3 is having far more troubles than previous titles. When a senior producer leaves this far into the production of a huge project, that's hardly "nothing". This has never happened to any other Blizzard title. Diablo 3 has now experienced high level execs (Bill Roper) leaving, an entire studio shut down by it's parent arm due to the lack of quality, and now an indefinite delay and a senior game producer leaving, all in a great span of 9-10 years.


Especially for a game that resembles it's predecessor more than any of the other titles you mentioned (SC2, WC3). Honestly I don't know why we waited 9 years to have Diablo 2.5 with a naphelem cube, only to be removed at the last second.

Source:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Activision-Blizzard-Diablo-3-Steve-Parker-Senior-Producer,14539.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North


EDIT:

Well now this thread has almost derailed...I'mma leave my commentary on Diablo 3 at this.

But back on topic....$#$@#! I graduate this year and I was planning on going - now they cancel :X. Though I suppose it is for the better, I guess it'll suck going to a Blizzcon with nothing significant to see or play.

Genopath
02-02-2012, 04:43 AM
I been a little disconnected from this but when will be the next wwi?

Quirel
02-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I been a little disconnected from this but when will be the next wwi?
Soon. (TM)

Blazur
02-03-2012, 11:37 AM
It's about time they stop pimping their work in progress and actually focus on releasing a damn game.

D3 is turning out to be a pretty big disappointment and I'm quite disillusioned about it. They're really simplifying the game.

TheEconomist
02-03-2012, 05:47 PM
Bill Roper and friends left in 2003, you're telling me that isn't "development hell"?

Nope, it's not. Diablo 3 was delayed during this time for the same reason that StarCraft 2 was, World of WarCraft. Since it was rebooted, it's been smooth sailing by Blizzard's standards. Pretty sure you were worried about StarCraft 2 as well, so I can only assume you're a chronic worrier, to be honest. I even remember your worries about SC2's melee, so, yeah.

Senior level executives leave all the time. I've been following several others games where executive designers leave late-game. That's usually an indication that the game is done and they want to move on to something else, or are burned out of a particular company's environment (Read: Blizzard fans). There's numerous examples and yet I can't remember any because they never actually materially effected the game. I do know that R&D1, Nintendo subcompanies, and Sony subcompanies are prone to switching executives mid-game.

Furthermore, you have to put this situation in perspective of the entire industry. Right now technology stocks and hype for companies are reaching highs not seen since the height of the dot-com bubble and gaming sales are slumping quite a bit. That's quite the difference. Executives in all areas of the industry are being traded around since the areas of technology which have been fueling the industry for the last fifteen years are struggling while news areas of the market are opening up. This is having a profound effect on companies like Activision. I wouldn't doubt that the decision was based on something not related to the game.

There's also speculation that international concerns such as the Korean ratings agencies had something to do with the delay, which would make sense since the delay announcement was released the same day as the news about the ratings agency.

Either way, Blizzard is not going to let Diablo 3 go into development hell. That's for lesser financially sound companies. There's no strong indicators that they're doing anything other than their normal "ready when it's ready" strategy. Besides, given that ATVI stocks were suffering at the moment, Activision would never let Diablo 3 go into development hell. So, Diablo 3 will be released within a reasonable time frame eve if for no other reason than Bobby Kotick is an "evil capitalist pig".


They're really simplifying the game.

I can't think of anything that was removed that wasn't already unnecessarily complicated to begin with.